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Knocking Down the Walls

October 08, 2020 Dr. Isabel MD & Culinary Nutrition Expert Chef Michael Season 1 Episode 24
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Knocking Down the Walls
Oct 08, 2020 Season 1 Episode 24
Dr. Isabel MD & Culinary Nutrition Expert Chef Michael

Dr. Isabel MD interviews Lori Marini, Cancer Survivor and Motivational Coach, who specializes in empowering women during, and after their healing journey. Many lose their purpose after a crisis, leaving them paralysed. Coach Lori guides them to their higher purpose on many levels.

Lori is the founder of Lori Marini Coaching, and is a certified Pathologist Assistant, wellness and cancer coach, Reiki Level II practitioner, author, and speaker.

You can find Lori at www.lorimarini.com and look for her book coming up; "Women Who Boss Up."

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Show Notes Transcript

Dr. Isabel MD interviews Lori Marini, Cancer Survivor and Motivational Coach, who specializes in empowering women during, and after their healing journey. Many lose their purpose after a crisis, leaving them paralysed. Coach Lori guides them to their higher purpose on many levels.

Lori is the founder of Lori Marini Coaching, and is a certified Pathologist Assistant, wellness and cancer coach, Reiki Level II practitioner, author, and speaker.

You can find Lori at www.lorimarini.com and look for her book coming up; "Women Who Boss Up."

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3. Follow our adventures on the Doctoronamission VLOG. Do you love stories and video adventure to laugh, cry and be empowered? So do we. That's why we have a vlog (That's a blog done in video style.) Just the way we do it here at Doctoronamission!
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4. For daily insights, imspiration, and behing the scenes action, follow us on Instagram and Facebook; just look for Doctoronamission (Dr. Isabel MD)
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Dr. Isabel MD (45s):
Hello Lori Marini, I am so glad you are here with us here at Doctoronamission. How are you doing?

Lori Marini (51s):
I am well, thank you so much for having me on I'm truly honored.

Dr. Isabel MD (56s):
My pleasure. Let me introduce you. Lori Marini is a motivational coach and a cancer survivor who specializes in empowering women during and after their healing journey. I love that. Many lose their purpose after a crisis, leaving them paralysed. Coach Lori guides them to their higher purpose on many levels. Lori supports clients in identifying what is holding them back and together, take the first courageous step and living an amazing life.

Dr. Isabel MD (1m 33s):
Lori is the founder of Lori Marini Coaching, she is a certified Pathologist Assistant, life, wellness and cancer coach, Reiki Level II practitioner, author, and speaker. Hi, where are you coming from?

Lori Marini (1m 52s):
Oh my goodness. So right now I am coming to you from Sarasota, Florida. My, I was originally based in Nashville, but the universe had different plans when we lost our home in a tornado. So when that happened, we're like, it looks like it's time for Palm trees. So we made our way at the beginning of the pandemic, we've got a moving truck and we moved their way down and its been amazing ever since. Are you close to the water? I yeah, a five minute walk.

Lori Marini (2m 24s):
I love the beach. So being landlocked in Tennessee, even though I'd loved the state so much, I really was missing the ocean, is missing for me. So I'm very blessed. I'm in, I do a daily walk every morning where I go and I visit the water and its really been, you know, when they say you need to create a life that you love and create it in a way that it creates, you know, provides you peace and happiness. Like I feel I finally did that.

Dr. Isabel MD (2m 50s):
Good, good. Well, you'll have to come visit us down here in New Zealand and will go to the ocean too.

Lori Marini (2m 54s):
Oh your on the top of my list, honestly, I'm not kidding. I have been talking about that for years. Absolutely. You can count on it.

Dr. Isabel MD (3m 3s):
As soon as this pandemic thing ends.

Lori Marini (3m 5s):
Absolutely. It's been a little wild.

Dr. Isabel MD (3m 9s):
Well I want, I'd love for you to share your story before, during and Now, okay because people learn from other people's stories and so it's all yours.

Lori Marini (3m 25s):
So I have a very unique story in the fact that before I was diagnosed, I worked as a Pathologist Assistant and so I am, I have a master's in it and what it is, it's really someone who has studied tumors and is a tumor Expert. I'm the person when you get something taken out of your body, you know, at the time of surgery or your biopsies, they come to me, I examine them, most of the time of Pathologist will never review your actual tissue, it's somebody like me, who will do that work.

Lori Marini (3m 55s):
And they get besides, so my entire life, my entire career has been based on tumor diagnosis. And I have been very blessed to work with some amazing people. I was setting up a center for precision medicine, a genomic center. And I went in for my baseline. So before I even get to that, you know, I was in the best shape of my life. I was eating well, I have no family history. I did a self exam.

Lori Marini (4m 27s):
I didn't feel anything. And I ah, when I was 40 my primary care physicians said, Lori you need to go get a mammogram. I was so busy at work that I never went for that mammogram when I was 40. So when I showed up to the office at 41, the first thing that came out of my mouth was I'm so sorry. I promise, I promise I'm going to go. And she says to me, she's like, Lori you actually just bought yourself four more years. They just changed the guidelines to 45. She gave me an exam. She sent me on my way and I literally sat with it.

Lori Marini (4m 59s):
I'm like, I don't feel right about this, but all right, let me think about it. And I had a dream. I had a dream, I was riddled with cancer, and I called up my bestie and I said to him, I'm like, I am freaked out. I feel like this is really a message. Can you please stay on me to schedule this mammogram? And I don't know why that was the test that came to mind. You know, like it could have been anything, but for some reason it's what my intuition was telling me.

Lori Marini (5m 31s):
So I called the office that I was going to go and try to get an appointment for. And they happen to have an appointment that the very next day, which those of us in Medicine know that never happens. So I went the next day, they gave me a baseline and they immediately called me and said, we need you to come back. So I went the following day and I had a 3d mammogram with contrast and they moved onto an ultrasound and by image 65 and there in my lymph nodes, I knew something was up, right.

Lori Marini (6m 11s):
Like I spent the past 20 years looking at these images. Like I knew what I was looking at. And I was like, Oh, there's something going on. And you know, it's really funny how your brain works because I'm like, okay, there's something there. And I literally started writing my wills. I literally started saying to myself, what I'm going to do when I'm over at this whole thing, like I plan the rest of my life out before even told me the words you have Cancer and I walked out of the office, and they told me you're going to need to come back and get a biopsy.

Lori Marini (6m 52s):
So I went back, I got a biopsy on my left side because the best way they saw an abnormality and it just so happens that that abnormality was four masses on my left with the largest measuring 2.2 centimeters. So those of us who work in the field or if you've educated yourself on how tumors work, the key number for breast cancer, you do not want is anything over two centimeters. And because of that upstages you, but also the thing that really just blew my mind was that like, I can't feel them.

Lori Marini (7m 27s):
I just had a professional feel them , and we didn't feel anything. How do I have four, like really?

Dr. Isabel MD (7m 33s):
And if I just may ask one more time for clarification for the, for our audience, how big were yours?

Lori Marini (7m 40s):
So they range from 0.5 centimeters to 2.2 centimeters. So just that 0.2, really. So two point to, as like a, a, a golf ball, right and we couldn't feel it. And I'm, you know, I was, I was a B cup, you know, I was in my forties. I started my 40. So they weren't as perky as it used to be. You know what I mean? Like,

Dr. Isabel MD (8m 4s):
And I know what you mean

Lori Marini (8m 7s):
There. We should be able to feel it. And we didn't. And it really like, that's what really stood out for me. So I went and got a biopsy. I was an awful patient, you know, it's just, I'm even embarrassed to say it. Like I told the attending, I only wanted an attending to work on me. I don't want extra passes. You need to make this quick and let's go, right. Because I'm used to being the other side of the table and I'm like, she looked at me, she was like, well, you're in a teaching hospital. And so I'm like, I know that, but I also know I have the right to not have a resident, you know, learn on me.

Lori Marini (8m 43s):
I'm like, I've taught residents' for 20 years. Can we just hurry up? And like, I felt bad afterwards. Like that just kind of this poor woman, I feel terrible, terrible. So she went ahead and took multiple passes. I think I had 12 passes taken on my left What is a pass for the audience? So a passes every time, the biopsy gun fires. So they, they will make a little incision in your skin.

Lori Marini (9m 13s):
They'll they'll put this, it's a metal tube that has a knife at the end of it. It sounds really medieval. You don't feel it really kind of, but it will actually make a noise and it'll click in every time it clicks, it'll take a sample of tissue. And that's what I worked on in my entire life. So I'd looked at her and I'm like, I need to see these. And she's looking at me like what? And so I, I looked at them and I'm like, I knew the second I saw them.

Lori Marini (9m 46s):
I'm like there's Cancer and nobody had get to tell me that I had Cancer right. They still have yet to say the words to me. And I just knew by how they looked, you know, that's, what I was doing for the hospital is like, I'm the person that selects the best sample because sometimes you can't submit an entire, you know, sample that you get. So you have to know what you're looking at. And I knew, so I walked out at the office, just, I didn't know what to do with myself.

Lori Marini (10m 16s):
I'm going to be really honest. And the first person I called was my boss who just happen to be a world renowned breast oncologist. Oh, you know, and I wanna back up for a second because the universe puts you exactly where you need to be. If something keeps showing back up in your life, like over and over and over again, take the hint for me. What that was was that I had this prestigious hospital in a medical center in Boston that kept asking me to go and work there.

Lori Marini (10m 49s):
I turned the job down three times and I'm like, they can't get anybody. Why do they keep asking me? I started in May of 2015. And by June of 2017, I was diagnosed and I was working for a breast oncologist. And the second I told them, I'm like, look, this is something he said to me, Lori it might be nothing. I said, I saw the tissue, it's what I do. Like I know. And he just ran with it.

Lori Marini (11m 20s):
He scheduled all my appointments, made all the connections, like everything for me. And I will be forever, forever in his debt. Like, I'm just so, so grateful. But you know, I, I often think about two things. One if I didn't make my way to, to work with this guy who got me into surgery in two weeks, like how would my have treatment gone? And two, if I didn't have that dream that got me into action. Right. You know, where would I be?

Lori Marini (11m 50s):
And three, if I listened to my primary care provider, not my intuition, OF I really need to go and get tested. I probably wouldn't be sitting here today. So for me, it's one of those things that I no longer question anything I just go with, I go with it and you know, in hindsight, looking back, that's the best thing I could have done was really listening to myself. So I ended up, I elected to go, well, I always said to myself that if I was ever in this position, that I would automatically get a bilateral mastectomy because of my background and having seen what patients have gone through from surgery.

Lori Marini (12m 31s):
You know, when the margins are to close and all the revisions and all of that, I was just like, you know what? I'm not playing that game. But it just so happened that I had DCIS. So I had to go in for a biopsy on my right. They proved to have DCIS on my, on my right side to, for, for your audience.

Dr. Isabel MD (12m 51s):
How did you know I was going to ask you for clarification,

Lori Marini (12m 55s):
So I had infiltrating ductal proven carcinoma on my left side and D say it, DCIS is ductal carcinoma inside too. And so what that is, its a precancerous state it's that you have some changes in your cells, but they haven't turned into invasive cells. So if you have DCIS, you are closely monitored because at some point some patients may actually crossover into the invasive component.

Lori Marini (13m 25s):
So for me, knowing that knowing I already had invasion on one side, it was a no brainer. And I was telling my, you know, my oncologist, my surgeon, I'm like, no, we're getting a bilateral. And they're like, Lori, you're being too aggressive. I'm like, no, this is what I'm going to do. And what my biopsy came back with DCIS on my right. Nobody argued with me anymore. So I went in for treatment. I had lymph nodes done. We went through all of that. I ended up electing to get reconstructive surgery through expanders and implants.

Lori Marini (14m 1s):
And that's a whole conversation that we could talk about. But honestly, you know, it was a very trying time for me. And it was very difficult because I knew a lot, you know, I knew more than what they were just telling me. I've also seen firsthand the devastation that this disease causes for so many people that I was really overwhelmed.

Dr. Isabel MD (14m 27s):
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Dr. Isabel MD (15m 30s):
And Now back to the podcast. So then what happened after the reconstructive surgery?

Lori Marini (15m 41s):
And then I needed a revision and then I got put on Tamoxifen and Tamoxifen. Anybody is on Tamoxifen. It is a one heck of a drug. And I tried to get off of it. And I did hormone like a Dutch test to see where I'm at. And it was at a point where when I was, I started working with a Naturopath and she said to me, you're going to need to do one thing or another. You either need to get back on the Tamoxifen or you might need to consider getting your ovaries removed.

Lori Marini (16m 12s):
But I like, she really believed that because of the level that the estrogen that I have running through my body, I was just a time bomb waiting to reoccur. And so when they say that to you, you're kind of like, what do I do? So for now I chose to stay on the Tamoxifen, it's not my preferred and I'm still in, in the inquiry stages of what other options do I have. Like I'm really clear that diet can really help there. You know, I've implemented a lot of things in my diet, but at the same time, I just, I I'm I'm at that struggle that everybody is at where I'm like, what's the choice, right?

Lori Marini (16m 53s):
What do I do?

Dr. Isabel MD (16m 55s):
You're obviously doing research and learning to become the CEO of your health, which I congratulate you do,

Lori Marini (17m 2s):
Taking things from all of that. Thank you.

Dr. Isabel MD (17m 5s):
The thing we really encourage and and teach here at Doctoronamission So what is your vision? What's your why now for your career, for the business that you've created?

Lori Marini (17m 18s):
So The my Coaching visits came from the fact that while I was going through all of my follow ups at the facility where I worked, I was completely overwhelmed. I didn't know if I was coming or going and its like, I've worked in this field for 20 years. I know all the law. I knew the language that there telling me, I know where to park. I know where the bathroom is. I know where the cafeteria is. Like, why am I feeling this way?

Lori Marini (17m 48s):
And it was one of those things that I'm like, if I feel this way, how does anybody else get through it? And so that put me into action that put me into how can I support others? And that's how Lori Marini Coaching was born. I literally, with both feet first I became a certified coach. I import myself of everything that I could possibly need in order to benefit patients. And my focus has been with supporting women. Once you are beyond your treatments, you know, you're left on your own and you're left with, I like to say that you're hit you're, you know, you are just hit with a ton of bricks.

Lori Marini (18m 27s):
Usually like two years later after everything settles with the emotional side of what you're going through and its like, what now? You know, do I make plans for the future? Or do I just sit here and wait to get a reoccurrence? Is there any point in like trying to look pretty or making myself, you know, be healthier? Like, is it, am I just a walking time bomb? And that's what I support people with. Its like, you know what? We can't control what's going to happen to us, but we can set ourselves up for success.

Lori Marini (18m 60s):
We can set our selves, set ourselves up in a way that we can live life every day. And if today is our last day would be proud that this was the day that we had

Dr. Isabel MD (19m 10s):
And just be your best self for that day.

Lori Marini (19m 13s):
Exactly. And like, you know, and it's so hard to keep that positive mindset of like today's the day today's in it and be okay that, you know, tomorrow may not be so great, but you'll handle it. And that's the other thing that we work on is like, okay, you got some bad news, your skin did not come back the way that you wanted it to be, but you know what? You gone through everything on this far, you are tough. You're a warrior. And the, and I, you know, and that's why we don't use the word survivor in my group will use the word warrior because we're going, we're not going down without a fight.

Lori Marini (19m 51s):
And we're not at the effect of our disease. We are in control of what our bodies are doing and we are going to do the best that we can at to empower, empower ourselves is really where we stand.

Dr. Isabel MD (20m 5s):
And do you just simply work with women who have breast cancer?

Lori Marini (20m 9s):
No, I've worked with all tumor types, any or even a chronic illnesses because cancer technically is a chronic illness. It's something that once your diagnosis stays with you, so its no different than any GI chronic illness. And I, I don't exclude men, but I Women just seem to gravitate. So I've focused on them, but I've never turned any male, you know, down. And this sounds really bad, but I don't mean it that way.

Dr. Isabel MD (20m 40s):
And what, what positive? What positive tools? What tools do you have to help people maintain a positive mindset so that there are the boss of their brain?

Lori Marini (20m 50s):
Oh, it's so important. I'm a positive mindset. I can get you threw anything. Right? Its like the example I really like to give to my clients is, you know what think about when you are looking forward to vacation, all you are is like, I can't wait to go. Like you're packing your bags like three months early and you know, you're just so excited and then you're on vacation and this is the last day of your vacation and your like, this is terrible. That's the difference between a positive and a negative mindset.

Lori Marini (21m 21s):
Like when you are still on vacation for your last day, you're still on vacation. Why aren't you enjoying that last day? Instead as humans, we focus on, I gotta go home tomorrow. I gotta go back to work. I got to go back to responsibility. So the tools that we use is, you know, first and foremost, meditation, meditation is the foundation of just healthy living. It, it supports your soul. It soothes your soul, calms your brain.

Lori Marini (21m 51s):
It allows you to think clearly. So I tell my clients start with five minutes and you're not going to get it right and just be okay with it, but just get in the practice of it and then slowly increase your time every week. The second is journaling and you know, anything that's going on in your brain will manifest itself. I'm a believer that things manifest that, you know, if you are focused on a negative point of your day, then you're going to miss the great parts that happened right in the way we do that.

Lori Marini (22m 28s):
And it's normal and its human. But what I found is that through journaling, literally just taking a notebook, I find that writing is better than typing, but you do you, whatever works and just sit there for five minutes, 10 minutes, uninterrupted. And literally just braindump it doesn't even need to make sense. Just put it down on paper. And with this practice over time, you we'll be able to just have clear thoughts, a more clear mind. You will also start to see what your vision is for your own life. Right? And that's in, that's one of the things that's so important that you get from both of those practices is you, if you haven't figured it out or it may be something new, why you do what you do?

Lori Marini (23m 12s):
Like why, why, why do you go to work every day? Why do you have the relationships that you have? Why do you go to the gym? Like what's your Y and standing there and standing in, you know, being true to yourself and knowing who you are truly allows you to be and do whatever you want. And you live the most fulfilled life because you're being true to yourself.

Dr. Isabel MD (23m 39s):
So true. And, and I've got a sign that just reminded me because I just refreshed this sign that I've got. I'm so into signs, you should see my house and a, one of the signs I just refreshed was "hold the image" because we are as human beings always go to the picture in our mind, we walk towards that picture. Yeah. If the picture is don't hit that wall or your whitewater rafting, don't hit that rock. Don't hit that rock. Don't hit that rock. Well, guess what your mind is focused on that rock and that's what you're going to hit.

Dr. Isabel MD (24m 13s):
But if your mind is like, I'm going to make it down this mountain, down this river, and I'm not gonna hit that rock. You are going to make a Down the river. So always hold the image of who you want to become. I said, I love that. So,

Lori Marini (24m 31s):
And the other thing to Mmm is like, it's OK to be angry that you've gone through what you've gone through. Like it's okay to have those emotions, but use those emotions to propel yourself forward, right? Like you're, you're not your Cancer. Your Cancer just happen to happen to you. And the other thing to is that don't compare yourself to someone else that's sitting next to you and the infusion room, their journey is totally different. And statistics are just statistics just because you're a stage three doesn't mean that you can't overcome.

Lori Marini (25m 6s):
We see that all the time where people have had a miracle and they they've, you know, had something and then it disappeared, right? Like, and I, I truly believe that you can manifest what you want for your life. You can standing in a positive mindset for yourself and you know, it's, it's OK to be selfish in this realm of your life. It's OK to be selfish when it comes to you and your health. Like you taking time for you is actually not selfish, but we find ourselves so many times putting everybody else's needs first, before our own.

Lori Marini (25m 45s):
And you know, I even found myself doing that while I was, you know, with my bandages and I had limited range of motion. I was worrying about everybody else. And I said to myself, like, what am I doing? Like, now's the time it's okay for me to just think about me for two seconds. And we had to be okay. Yeah. But we're so programmed, especially as women to keep nurturing others. Yes. You know, what are we thinking here?

Lori Marini (26m 16s):
It was insanity. So

Dr. Isabel MD (26m 19s):
How do you, I wanted to ask you about fear. Like how did you, how did you deal with the fear? What did you do? Lori,

Lori Marini (26m 28s):
You know, fear is going to be there. Fear, always props, you know, shows up. It will always be, they'll always be that voice in the back of your head that is saying, you know, with every ache and pain that you feel like, Oh, it's back. Oh, this isn't good. Oh, this is something. And honestly, you know, you have to use your mindset to overcome that. It's a muscle. If you, if you constantly like, you know, what, if something happens, then I'll handle it.

Lori Marini (26m 58s):
If something happens, I'll handle it and move through life courageously, like have it be okay? You know, I, I often it's kinda like the downhill skier, right? It's a really, it's an example that we'll apply our premise. You know, its like when you're, when you're flying down the mountain and going, you know, you're straight bombing down the mountain and you're going really, really fast. And you've the thrill of the ride is the most amazing thing you've ever experienced.

Lori Marini (27m 29s):
And then you might fall, right? There's that chance that you might fall or are, you might have an amazing, you know, flight down that mountain, but that's a chance to, we take for everything in some people never even choose to get in the game. They never even choose to put their skis on. So its like who do you want to be for yourself? Do you want to go ahead and you know, be the best version of you for you and like keep moving forward regardless of circumstances or are you going to let your circumstances win?

Dr. Isabel MD (28m 4s):
I love that, Because I grew up in Colorado and I love powder and I so relate to that idea.

Lori Marini (28m 11s):
Right? Like it's like, you know, you could stay on the blues all day, but like the black or like the greens, but those black diamonds are pretty amazing. And you feel accomplished after you do them?

Dr. Isabel MD (28m 21s):
Well, I never did well, I accidentally did a black diamond on it. Right. Well, yeah.

Lori Marini (28m 30s):
It may not have been pretty, but you survived it. I mean, I'm speaking for myself, not you. I don't know,

Dr. Isabel MD (28m 37s):
But I do like the powder.

Lori Marini (28m 40s):
Yeah. Right in it's and then its amazing. So imagine going through life, well you never experience that because you let fear stop yourself. You have so much more life to live. So that's why, that's why like I call myself a life warrior. Like I, I'm a lifer, you're a coach. Like I'm going to be the person who is going to be your cheerleader to have you Live and honestly, you know, I've done it for myself. I've done it for countless other people and its like, we have to, we have to do it because otherwise why did you go through all that pain and all the treatments and all the suffering.

Lori Marini (29m 20s):
If at the end of it, you're not going to live fully. You might as well not have gone through that at all.

Dr. Isabel MD (29m 27s):
You're not living. Yeah. I love that. Thank you so much. I'm going to use that. Yeah,

Lori Marini (29m 31s):
Of course. I mean I've and I've lived that and I truly believe it. And you know the other thing too, that's a good tool is to surround yourself with people who won't allow you to stay in that negative zone forever. Right? They need to push you. They need to get you out of there, and sometimes people don't have those people in their life. And that's why community is so important. If you know, find a Facebook group, like we have a Facebook group it's called Courageous Cancer Warriors.

Lori Marini (30m 4s):
And that's what we do. We create a safe space where, you know what, if I'm having a bad day or I'm like freaking out thinking, you know, X, Y, and Z is going to happen. Then I get in that group with people who have gone through something similar and that there are going to just support me in it without telling me like I'm wrong or not understanding where I'm coming from. Because up until the point that you have someone say to you, you have XYZ, have a diagnosis. That's going to forever change your life. You don't understand what that feels like.

Lori Marini (30m 36s):
You really don't. It's a terrible idea. Yeah. And, and we don't want people to know, you know, like that's what I always say. I'm like, Be happy that you don't know what, what it's been like, but thank you so much for being a Support like, we don't want your part of this club, but if they just so happened to be there, like we welcome you with open arms, you know?

Dr. Isabel MD (30m 57s):
Yeah. And I see that you are coming out with a book.

Lori Marini (31m 2s):
And so this is definitely a huge dream of mine. I have partnered with its going to be 15 other ladies. And what we have is we've done a compilation where its Women Who Boss Up in health care. And so we all have our own version of what it means to overcome adversity and our fears and its going to be pretty amazing. Its gonna be out at the end of the year.

Dr. Isabel MD (31m 33s):
Oh, Oh, Oh I will definitely be. I hope you have a volume II coming up too.

Lori Marini (31m 42s):
I have a couple of things up my sleeve, but right now I'm really just focusing on the programs that I can give, you know, for people to benefit themselves to do. So

Dr. Isabel MD (31m 53s):
We are the image, hold it

Lori Marini (31m 56s):
And you know, I joke around about it. But my, my love, my passion is speaking engagements. So I joke around and saying, watch out Rachel Hollis, Cause I'm coming for you. Right. That it. It's just, I find it's such an honor for me to be able to share my story. And two, you know, if I've helped one person by having this conversation with you today, then I've really fulfilled my, my Mission my destiny.

Lori Marini (32m 26s):
It's really, I really feel like it's my calling to be a support to people.

Dr. Isabel MD (32m 31s):
Absolutely. And I, I, the two best days in a person's life is the day you were born and the day you realize what your is for the purpose is so good. I'm so glad you've had those two days. And unfortunately it comes from a mess. Yeah. So you're mess is now your message, but you are doing it afraid. And I love that.

Lori Marini (32m 52s):
Love that. I love that. Thank you. Thank you.

Dr. Isabel MD (32m 55s):
And how else can people reach you? Like you've got things going on. What, where can people find you or I will be putting the link in, but you know, sometimes if they here.

Lori Marini (33m 5s):
Yeah. That's great. Thank you so much for that. So I have a website it's Lori marini.com super simple. And on the website it shows my phone number. Cause yes, you can actually call me. You can text me. It has my email because I would love to also hear from me by email and it has my podcast. I actually have a podcast called "Conversations with Courageous Cancer Warriors", where people who had been diagnosed with cancer caregiver's or a healthcare providers come on com on the show, they share their story, their expertise, and just, it's really just, it's a, it's a love project.

Lori Marini (33m 46s):
Like I absolutely adore it. I love hearing and supporting other people and sharing their story. And I have Facebook Lori Marini Coaching, I have Instagram Lori Marini LGS, and my Instagram page for me is "Daily gratitude", and its something that I started when I was going through my treatment, it was a way for me to just stay positive is how my positive mindset began. And what I did is every day through my day, I would take pictures of something that I found beautiful, inspiring, or something that moved me.

Lori Marini (34m 24s):
And at the end of my day, I would go through my pictures and it would choose the one that spoke to me the most. And then I would write what my experience was around this picture and I found it really soothing So on my website. You'll see, there's a blog. That's a lot of these posts, but the really body of work is

Dr. Isabel MD (34m 41s):
This is on Instagram or beautiful. I love it. Hey thank you so much for your time and sharing your heart, your journey, which is just beginning now. And,

Lori Marini (34m 55s):
And just so honored. Thank you for allowing me to share my story and thank you for having me on like I I'm just I'm so grateful.

Dr. Isabel MD (35m 3s):
Its the mutual admiration club. Yeah. All right. Well God bless you, honey. Have a super fantastic day. Thank you so much.