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Meeting an Angel at the Bridge - The John Katsavos Story!

August 13, 2021 Dr. Isabel MD & Culinary Nutrition Expert Chef Michael Season 2 Episode 22
MD and Chef Team - The Show!
Meeting an Angel at the Bridge - The John Katsavos Story!
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✅  In this very candid, open, honest, and transparent conversation with John Katsavos, he reveals how, after an encounter with an Angel at a Bridge where John was contemplating suicidal thoughts, the Angel then told John not to jump that he will get out of this and that he has to figure out his greater purpose, which he did have one.

✅  Since this, John has been a professional personal trainer for 13 years. He has dealt with depression and suicidal thoughts in his past, which has moved him to create a system that has been proven for over decade to help people not only lose weight and feel better about themselves, also to be able to make life long changes in their lives.

✅  In that time he has become a Certified Health Counselor, acquired JumpStart MAT, learned the RTS system, Fitness Kickboxing Coach LVL 2, avid Systema practitioner and looked at becoming a certified instructor

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Speaker 0 (0s): Coming up on this episode of the MD and chef team show. 

Speaker 1 (9s): And what I saw at my funeral was like, it was devastating. It was at the moment where my friends had walked in and I saw my, my, my parents, my family, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, my sister, all get up and they started fighting my friends. And the angel actually asked me, is this what you want to be remembered for? Wow. Wow. I was like, no. 

So then the angel took me and brought me to the guy's car, the guy whose car, I hit 

Speaker 2 (54s): Welcome to the show from the MDs chef team. I'm Dr. Isabel medical doctor here at the MD and chef team. And who are you? I'm chef Michael Coleman nutrition expert. I'm the chef. And what are we going to talk about bad. Now I can see that cause he's my husband. We'll be talking about marriage, relationship, parenting intimacy. Talk about mindsets that success, overcoming depression, anxiety. I'll be getting into functional nutrition, recipes and tips from the kitchen. 

And we're going to both get into how to live a long, healthy, vibrant life. Yes. I love it. Our mission is to help you prevent and reverse disease and give you hope in the process. Oh yeah. We like to have fun. Get on the show. So, John, how are you doing? 

Speaker 1 (1m 50s): I'm doing good. How are you? 

Speaker 0 (1m 52s): Great, welcome aboard. I want to ask you, where are you calling in from? 

Speaker 1 (1m 57s): I am calling from Toronto, Ontario up in Canada. And how's the weather? Hot and humid. Just the way I like it. Yeah. 

Speaker 0 (2m 7s): Oh man. I am. So I really would love to have that kind of weather. I'm in New Zealand and it is cold and I'm waiting for spring. 

Speaker 1 (2m 17s): Well, when you guys have a summer, we have minus 20. 

Speaker 0 (2m 23s): I know. And you get so much snow. 

Speaker 1 (2m 27s): It's been good. Last couple of years, it's actually been pretty good. Like we haven't had that much snow, like would normally we would get dumped on it's normal for us to get about. I dunno, maybe 10, 10, 15 centimeters of snow in one in one days over the winter. It's it can, it can pile up to maybe like a meter, but we've been lucky over the last couple of years. It's been pretty good. 

Speaker 0 (2m 51s): Nice. And are you a skier? No. Are you a cross country? Skier? 

Speaker 1 (2m 59s): I am not anything that has to do anything with winter. I get you. 

Speaker 0 (3m 5s): I totally understand. Hey listen. Why don't I share with our listeners who you are and where you're coming from and invite you everybody in on the MD and chef 

Speaker 1 (3m 15s): Team. Go right ahead. 

Speaker 0 (3m 19s): Welcome everybody to the MD and chef team. I'm your host, Dr. Isabel and we have today with us, John cat. Savos did I say that correctly? Cut solvers. How 

Speaker 1 (3m 30s): Do you say it? That's our voice, but everybody here in Canada and north America pronounced it cuts Salvos. So Sophos 

Speaker 0 (3m 39s): Cuts all those. And what nationality is that? Greek. Greek. I love it. Right. I actually thought you were a little Spanish, but I totally see the Greek. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (3m 52s): I get that a lot. Well, let me 

Speaker 0 (3m 54s): Tell you a little bit about John and then we'll go into his story because he's got a really special story that I want to share that I want him to share with us to give everybody hope. John is a professional personal trainer for 13 years and has dealt with depression and suicidal thoughts in his past. I get that space, John, and, you know, I applaud you for speaking it out because we really need to talk more, you know, about the elephant in the living room. So thank you for doing that. 

So he's taught, he he'll be talking to us about that. And he's created a system that has been proven out over a decade, how people not only lose weight and feel better about themselves, but to be able to make lifelong changes in their lives, which is so important. We need long lasting changes, you know, not just a weekend change. And then we go back to the regular way we were in that time. He has become a certified health counselor, acquired jumpstart mat, learn the RTS system. 

What does RTS stand for? 

Speaker 1 (4m 60s): Resistance training specialist, 

Speaker 0 (5m 2s): Building that muscle 

Speaker 1 (5m 5s): Nice. Then how to understand how to manipulate it properly. Ooh, great. 

Speaker 0 (5m 11s): A fitness kickboxing coach Kapow, LVL to avid systemic practitioner. And we'll hear about that. I'm sure. And is looking to become a certified instructor. Welcome. 

Speaker 1 (5m 26s): Thank you for having me. 

Speaker 0 (5m 27s): Thank you. What time is it there right now for you? 

Speaker 1 (5m 30s): It is 8 36 in the evening PM on Monday. Yes. 

Speaker 0 (5m 36s): Yes. Well, it is 1236 New Zealand time Tuesday. So let me just let you know. Tuesday's a good day. Okay, great. Yeah. So John, you've had a, a rough ride 

Speaker 1 (5m 53s): And 

Speaker 0 (5m 55s): You've come through over on the other side. Do you mind just sharing where it all began and, and just share your journey with us if you don't mind? 

Speaker 1 (6m 7s): Sure. I've always been a believer even from high school that I never really fitted in with the crowd. I was always the, like I grew up in the nineties in high school. So I was like the grunge phase when everybody was in, you know, the dance and the Euro stuff. I was, I was always the, the outcast. I loved it. I absolutely loved it in right when I graduated high school and I finished college, which was community college, I got a little lost and I found a job working as a security guard and, you know, I was doing pretty good for myself. 

I first security guard back in the, you know, late nineties, early two thousands or late nineties, I was doing really good for myself and everything started to fit in. Finally for me, up until Christmas Eve, when two of the, two of my guards, like I wasn't shift supervisor at that time, it was young guy, young kid. I was in my mid twenties. That's a young pup. And two of my guards decided to go to a client's office and make coffees for themselves after hours. 

And my supervisor found out about it because the client complained because they're missing two to cough, they're missing coffees. So needless to say, I lost my job because of it. At that point in time, like I said, I was doing very well for myself. I was doing, I had a car that I should not have had back in the day as you know, really nice sports car. I was thinking about moving out on my own. I put my, I was put, I put myself back into university so I can get a better education. 

And when I lost that, when I lost my job, I lost everything. I almost lost my car. I got stuck in my parents. I got stuck in my parent's basement cause I couldn't afford to move out. There was no money coming in. I dropped out of university because it couldn't afford to continue. And I found out that all my friends were talking behind my back, even when I was doing even the timing, quote unquote successful in my early twenties, which is quite unfair of how we have labeled when people should be successful. 

I agree. So needless to say, I was in a very bad space because there was the first time that I had lost everything and I didn't know how to handle it. So I literally, I locked myself in my, in my bedroom basement apartment for an entire year. And the tipping point was one. I went out for a walk and the walk was on, on purpose. I walked to the nearest bridge and I was standing on it. 

And that was planning. I was looking at the cars coming over the highway or freeway or whatever you want to call it motorway. And I was judging how fast the cars are going to come so that when I jumped, I can hit a car before it hit the ground. So I can make sure that my story's over. I was 25 at the time 25. And that's when you know Christians out there. 

You know, we ha we all say that we have our guardian angels and Muslims even say that we have guardian angels. That's when my guardian angel came to me and he literally showed me my funeral. And what I saw at my funeral was like, it was devastating. It was at the moment where my friends had walked in and I saw my, my, my parents, my family, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, my sister all get up and they started fighting my friends. 

And the angel actually asked me, I said, is this what you want to be remembered for? Wow. Wow. I was like, no. So then the angel took me and brought me to the guy's car, the guy whose car I hit. And I saw the destruction that I put the struct of life that I left this poor man's life. 

I left him in shambles. And then the angel again, asked me, is this what you want to be remembered for? I'm like, no, see, I'm the type of guy that I can take, whatever you dish at me as fine. I'm okay with it because I'm okay with it. But I don't like seeing other people suffer because of my actions. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So I was brought back to the, I was brought back to the bridge and the angel just looked at me and it just told me what didn't look at me on me. 

I couldn't see the angel. Like it could, I could feel it looks. Yeah, it was. And it told me, he goes, you got to, you got a bigger purpose in life. Don't do this. Just keep going. Just keep fighting. Just keep moving at the time I was in I a mess. I'm like, I don't know what, I don't know what this guys, I don't know what this thing's telling me. I have no ongoing. Crazy. Okay. 

Yeah. So I like, all right. All right. I'll, you know, one more chance, one more chance. And because I had, I didn't have a job. I didn't have like, like I knew how to work out. Cause I've been working out since I was 16 years old. So at that point it was nine years. So I knew what to do. Right. And how to, you know, home workouts and this and that. So I'm like, all right, let me do a little bit of work out here. A little bit of work out there, go for a walk here, go for a walk there. 

Couple months, roll by. I landed a job as an armed guard, which by the way, I actually lied on my gun application so I can get the job people. If you're depressed, I'm just a disclaimer. If you're depressed, do not lie on the gun license just don't lie at all. 

Speaker 0 (12m 55s): It's a good idea. Not to lie. 

Speaker 1 (12m 57s): It's not a good idea not to live, but I love it on the gun license. Cause it where it said it asks you on the application. If you've ever had suicidal depression, if you've ever suffered from depression or suicidal thoughts. Yes or no, I clicked. No, but I landed a job because of it. So, you know, I've got some money coming in, paid off a couple of debts and I start myself up to a gym and things started to go better. 

And I remember one night when I was coming back from the, from the, from the drop, which was the drop is where we drop off the money at the banks. And we're going back to the shop with an empty truck. And I was sitting in the back with my messenger, the messengers, the crew chief. So he's like the supervisor of the crew, a three man crew. And I was like, spot came into my head. The thought was, he's not fast enough. 

My messenger was not fast enough for me pulling my gun out, putting it in my mouth and pulling the trigger. At that point, I told myself, I that's, this is enough. I can't, I can't be thinking like this. This is not healthy for me. This is not right. This is not, I don't want to say it's not normal because it is normal to have these kinds of thoughts. However, it's what we do after, which is what's important. And what I did after was the neck. 

The very next day, when I woke up, I was signed up. I signed myself up to my local martial arts club. And that was the turning point for me, where now I can find the proper tools that I can fall back on. Every time I slip, because I do slip, I slipped 

Speaker 0 (14m 55s): Now we all do John. We all do. Yeah. It's constant course correction. You know, it's constantly every moment. 

Speaker 1 (15m 5s): Exactly. And it's so th th th that's that's, that's pretty much my story. And it's like, you know, try this, try that, fail here, fail there. But again, it's like you said, it's like course corrections, right? It's like, okay, this didn't work. Why didn't it work? All right. I feel crappy because of it. And you know what? It's okay to feel crappy about it all live in the crap, just in it for a little bit, and then get out 

Speaker 0 (15m 32s): That's right. Learn from your crap. Why does this feel wrong? And what am I going to do about it? So can I just circle back on a little bit about your story, because that's an amazing story. And thank you so much for sharing that you did a wonderful job. I know that that was, that was a lot of time and you did it in less than seven minutes. So now let's go ahead and, you know, work it out. 

So let's talk, let's talk about that year. You were locked in your basement. Okay. So I'm a mom, my husband's a father. We've got two daughters. And if our kids are living in the basement and they're locked in there, I'm, I'm concerned. What did your parents say? What were they saying? 

Speaker 1 (16m 27s): They weren't saying anything. They were constantly check in on me, obviously. Right? The loving parents. They, they love me because they love me. Right. But they were giving me my space for me to figure it out, which was important. And whenever I did say something to my mom, mostly my mom, she would always listen, always listen, but she was, I don't want to. 

She was, she's a hard, she, she came from the school of hard knocks, like at 13 years old, she was, she immigrated from Greece. And she from 13 years old, back in the sixties and in Toronto, not like what it is today, sixties in Toronto, people were very racist against white people that were not Canadian. Now. Things are much, much different. So my mom is a very hard person when it comes to that. 

But she's also when it, but when it comes to her kids like me and my sister, like she'll do she'll, she'll move the world for us. And it hurt her to know that I was in my room and I didn't leave. I only left my room to eat and to shower once a week. I didn't care how I looked. I didn't care how I felt. I didn't care about how I, how, how I smelled. I didn't care about anything. I was, I was watching movies, playing video games. 

I was just like, just, just really just, I didn't care about movies. I didn't care about nothing, nothing. And looking back, like, I could see how it hurt her, but, and the fact that she was there to support whenever she, whenever I needed to the very rare occasion where I actually came out and said something, she was always there to listen, which was really good, which 

Speaker 0 (18m 40s): Is magnificent for parents. Just listening is very important. Did she ever want to take you to the doctor 

Speaker 1 (18m 45s): Or anything? No. 

Speaker 0 (18m 47s): That wasn't in her DNA. Yeah. I get that. Hey, my mom, my mom and dad immigrated from Cuba two years before Fidel Castro took over in the fifties to Washington DC. So, and mommy, you know, like I can never, I don't even, she's 96 years, young living independently and really on top of her game for nineties, but I can't ever share with her, my, my, my attempts of trying to take my life because she just she's like, no, you know, I've been through so much more and you know, you just toughen up and just do what you gotta do, and God will help you out. 

You know, you gotta get closer to God. So anyway, I know that space and I'm glad that you I'm actually glad that you went to the bridge because the angel showed up, your angel showed up. And as a Christian, I believe in guardian angels. I mean, it's all over the Bible and we are covered in angels and Billy Graham and his book, the angels. I don't know if you've ever read that book, but the wonderful late Billy Graham, he talks about how God gives us angels, really good angels that are protecting us. 

So I'm glad your angel showed you your future. You know, the future, not only for your family, but also for that man or woman that was going to be affected by you committing, taking your life. 

Speaker 1 (20m 16s): Believe me, there's a question that I asked my guests. If you could go back, could you, would you change anything? No, I would. I want to go back to that bridge because that was one of the many, many turning points I've had in my life. Many turning points. Yeah. So 

Speaker 0 (20m 34s): Bravo for, yeah. I thank you for sharing that because not too many people thought about their guardian angels, so thanks. No problem. It just makes it more normal. Yeah. There's angels out there and they're watching over you and in the Bible says, God appoints angels to his people. So somebody's praying for your mom, your mom, must've been praying for you. She may not have talked too much, but she must have been praying for you. Yeah, 

Speaker 1 (21m 1s): I'm sure she was. I'm sure she was. 

Speaker 0 (21m 4s): And a praying mom is a powerful, powerful, powerful person. 

Speaker 1 (21m 10s): Absolutely. I totally, totally believe 

Speaker 0 (21m 12s): That. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to ask you a couple of things. Can you talk about the positive effects of exercise on them? 

Speaker 1 (21m 24s): Yeah. I've in the past. Well, ever since high school, I've always been fascinated by, by exercise. So like my OAC year, grade 13, we do a lot. We did a lot of, you know, positive stuff, you know, understanding the muscle and how it works, but something very interesting happens through your brain when you're exercising because of the amount of dopamine serotonin. 

If you, if you don't mind getting like really, really site. 

Speaker 0 (21m 58s): Okay. Well, I think that it's getting too scientific. I'll pull back and kind of paraphrase because that's just what I do. 

Speaker 1 (22m 10s): But basically what happens is that when, when we exercise, there's a lot of dopamine and serotonin that gets dumped into our brain. And that is like Paul Chek actually calls it the exercise of the drug of choice. So whenever you feel bad, whenever you feel down Jocko, wilnick says, if you, if you're, if you get tired, bust out 10 burpees guarantee you, you won't be tired after 10 burpees guarantee it. 

And the reason why is because, because the dopamine dump because of the serotonin dump, because the cortisol dump that happens in, in, in your muscle, in your muscles, the ATP, the ATP, a breakdown from the muscle synthesis and release of lactic acid, it brings you up. So you cannot feel bad after a workout before a workout. Even I feel bad. 

There's days, there's days where it's like, I'm not working out. I'm not working out. And there's an old bodybuilding adage. When, when you don't feel like working out, work out, even when you're sick. Yes. However, however, not as intense when you're sick, people have mistaken of a workout as a 90 minute or 60 minute or 30 minute bust out, break into a break into sweat that is completely false, standing up from lying down and lie and going from a stand-up position to a laying down position that could be considered a workout because you're using your muscles in order for you to stand up and lay back down. 

If you're sick, no written blog posts about this, like galore. If you're sick, just the fact, just, just the movement of standing up and laying back down, going for a walk around your house. That's exercise because you're applying force to your body, regardless of what that forces. So any form of resistance on the muscle to control the joint from falling apart, that can be considered an exercise. 

Speaker 0 (24m 45s): Thank you. Because there've been it's winter here. Okay. And you know how winter goes? You start getting a few viruses here and there, even, even the fearless leader of the MD and chef team gets a little capacity from viruses. So I do feel guilty in my mind cause normally I go for like an hour walk and it's, it's like a power punch walk. It's, I'm walking late as if I'm late for an appointment and then I'll do resistance, you know, or you know, three times a week and then I'll do a hit or something. 

And I'll tell you, I, I just, I can barely do a walk, you know, when you're feeling unwell. So thank you. You made my heart happy just by saying, Hey, go on for a walk is good enough. 

Speaker 1 (25m 32s): Well, it is. And that's one term that I actually really hate is many terms that I hate. One of them is cardio. It's not cardio it's resistance. If you really, if you really look at the science behind a walk, when you apply force on the ground, if you had no friction to apply force with Newton's third law of motion, you would be going nowhere fast or potentially flat on your face. 

One of the two. Okay, well, we won't be doing that then. 

Speaker 0 (26m 11s): And for men, because I haven't interviewed, you're the first male that I've interviewed for that has overcome anxiety and depression and, and suicide thoughts. And so for men, it's different, you know, you, you guys are just wired differently. And I want to know what's the importance of martial arts in a man's life. 

Speaker 1 (26m 34s): It's everything. Talk to me, martial arts, martial men through different phases when they, when they, when they enter martial arts. And the first phase is to build the ego. And, and if a man has an ego that has been deplenishes or completely, completely removed, it's it's game changing in systemic. 

We talk about the three phases, which is in six months, you learn, you learn how to fight between zero months, zero days and six months. You learn how to fight. That's all you do. You just learn how to fight up until two years or two, two or three years, you learn the physical part, sorry you learn the mental part of fighting. And then after you learn the spiritual part. So you're learning all three concepts, all three sides. 

So for guy, for a guy to be able to get into martial arts, it, it teaches all three aspects of the, the, exactly what a person needs of the physical, the mental and the spiritual all into one little capsule takes time, takes time. Believe me, I, I dipped into the spiritual aspect. I got scared. Like you can't even believe it. It was like, no, no, no, no. 

But when you, because it builds such, such amazing self-confidence, especially in the first six months for a man that it's life-changing for them because they understand that what I have here is good enough. Forget about what the whole world is saying. The whole world might be saying, I'm not good enough, but I know what I have here is good enough. 

And we drill down that confidence into that person, that, into that guy saying, yes, you are enough. You know what you're doing? You just got to trust it. And that's one of the key, that's one of the key learning points that we push in Sistema is that you already have the answers. You already know what to do. You just got to trust that you know what to do and follow through, which is another thing for guys is that we like, we like things laid out for us and we like to leave us alone and let us implement the plan. 

And that's another thing that martial arts does. It gives us a plan and it says, here it is, you know what to do, Russ that you know what to do 

Speaker 0 (29m 43s): And just do it. And what exactly is martial arts? Like what does that, what's the umbrella of martial arts? What does that encompass, have you ever in your adult life looked in the mirror and said, I never thought I would be depressed. And if you were like me placed on medications, well, if that's you, you are not alone. I understand that space. How would you like to learn how to overcome anxiety and depression and have a better life? 

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Speaker 1 (31m 15s): There's a physical aspect of martial arts, which is the fighting. I, then there's the spiritual, spiritual aspect of martial arts, which is connecting yourself to a greater purpose, connecting yourself and understanding that you are a part of that purpose. 

Speaker 0 (31m 33s): Yeah, but that shouldn't be scary, John. Cause the God I know is all love and mercy and kindness and it shouldn't be scary. So why is it scary for you? 

Speaker 1 (31m 45s): Because if you're not ready for it, it will wop you if you're not ready for it, if you tinker with it a little bit and you're not ready for it. 

Speaker 0 (31m 57s): And so do you know what your purpose is? Do you know what your purpose is in here on this? 

Speaker 1 (32m 4s): I don't know yet. I'll be honest with you. I don't know that. I think I'm, I think I'm doing it by trying to put this out to men and get them to understand that, you know, you're not alone in this world and other guys have been here before the guys are here that are, you know, in the process that you are. I think I am. I think I'm doing my purpose, I guess, on the one I'm on my deathbed. 

Speaker 0 (32m 33s): And are you working with other men that have gone through what you've gone through? 

Speaker 1 (32m 38s): I'm a part of, I'm a part of a couple of men's groups to help me with all this stuff. So yeah, I'm trying to build my platform, but it's a, it's a, it can be a challenge. You can be a challenge, 

Speaker 0 (32m 57s): But it definitely is a challenge. 

Speaker 1 (33m 0s): But I think the fact that, you know, I finally have the, the, the blueprint to do it and my why I've understood. I've understood my why? I think it, I think it's, I think this is my purpose. 

Speaker 0 (33m 16s): Good, good. And you know, it's, it's just all, it's just step by step by step. And look, when we fall, we get back up and talking about failure, you know, talking about falling, let's talk about failures. Have 

Speaker 1 (33m 30s): You had a few failures? I had some doozies. 

Speaker 0 (33m 36s): And have you learned anything from your failures? 

Speaker 1 (33m 41s): Yes. Yeah. I learned, I learned quite a bit from my failures. The first failure was the first time I started VO fitness. I had no idea what I was doing for business, no clue whatsoever. And I went on my own as a personal trainer and I'm doing like million different things. I got up to a thousand dollars a month and I was like, I'm doing it. 

I got my, I got me a business. And in three months I lost it. I went back to personal training again, picked it up. I branched off on my own. I was signed up, joined a big box gym here in Toronto and branched off on my own, started my own little thing. I actually got my own studio at that point. And I found who I thought was I was going to spend the rest of my life with, and that was another big Whopper because when I lost my business, the landlord just being a landlord, I'm not going to say that he was bad or good. 

He was just being a landlord. And when the money went, so did she, I'm sorry. 

Speaker 0 (35m 14s): Sorry, but you know, better now, better now. Yeah, I know. I know we, I know, but during the process it hurts, but now that you're over on the other side, it's just, oh wow. I'm glad. I'm glad I had that experience. Then instead of much later with kids on board that how's a mortgage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the right will show up 

Speaker 1 (35m 40s): If she does. She does. Yeah. I'm very happy with how I am. I mean, we could always be happier. And that's another thing that I've learned over, over, over the years is that like, no matter how happy you, you, no matter, no matter how happy that you think you are, you can, you're always feeling that you could be more happier. So it's like dog chasing the tail kind of thing. 

Speaker 0 (36m 8s): Right. And just learning how to be in the moment and appreciating the moment right now, right now I'm talking to John all the way from Canada, sharing our story. And before I land this plane, do you have three action steps that our listeners could benefit right away? Have a quick win. 

Speaker 1 (36m 29s): Quick win is simple. It, these are simple, simple, simple, simple things. Get out in nature and walk. Does it make a difference if it's minus 40 outside or plus 40 outside bundle up or dress down a little bit, but not to the point where you're going to get arrested, get out in nature, enjoy nature for what mother nature has to offer you. And that is life itself. 

Step number one, step number two, drink more water. The more water you drink, the less sugary stuff that you're going to put into your body and the less sugar that you do, the more this clears up and step number three, be kind to yourself. Mm Hmm. It's so good. If you can't love yourself, no one in this world will be able to love you. 

So learn to love yourself. Be kind to yourself, allow yourself the leeway to watch something funny once in a while, or you know, something, just do something nice for yourself because you're you, you're unique. You're you're unique and going down the path of just being serious, serious, serious, serious, serious. You don't want to go down there cause I've been there before. Yeah. Joy. 

Speaker 0 (37m 59s): Lots of joy. Hey, it's okay to have a good joy blast every day. Whatever you gotta do. Laugh. 

Speaker 1 (38m 7s): Laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you need to do hookup with friends and spend the day with friends. Reminisce of good times. Yeah. It's okay. That's okay. So can 

Speaker 0 (38m 18s): You tell us what you're offering everybody 

Speaker 1 (38m 22s): I have right now the 12 week fat Sizzler? 

Speaker 0 (38m 29s): Like what, like body fat? What are we talking about? Getting your body fat down to 3% or something. All right. Well, we want to do a disclaimer on this. The guy 

Speaker 1 (38m 44s): I don't like talking about like transformations of people, because everything is so unique. And every human being out there is unique. Your journey, the journey is more important than the destination, but the 12 week fat Sizzler, what I do is well a week weight loss program or men and women first, I had it for men, but I'm like, you know what? I need women in this too, because we need the nice balance between, you know, male and female. 

So I'm like, let's throw, let's put, break women into, we do the workouts. I focus more on the paleo diet because the paleo diet for me is probably the most effective way for us humans to be eating goes down to our real roots, which are caveman days, re three calls with me. One's a keynote call with me. One's a workshop. 

And one's a, what personal one-on-one call. I do have really heavily focused on the mindset because doing this professionally for 13 years and working out for the past 30 years, I've noticed that people who don't have a proper mindset when it comes to workouts, they will, they will bang it out for 21 days and then the elevator. 

So I do heavy, heavy, heavy mindset exercises, morning routines, evening routines affirmations, you name it. 

Speaker 0 (40m 24s): Absolutely proper thought management is so important. And how do people get in contact with you for the 12 weeks of facets? 

Speaker 1 (40m 32s): Right? They can go to my website. VO 

Speaker 0 (40m 38s): V fitness. 

Speaker 1 (40m 41s): B I O Yeah. Yeah. 

Speaker 0 (40m 52s): I'm so clever. So V a V I O Okay. Okay, great. 

Speaker 1 (40m 60s): I blast. I plaster it everywhere of Facebook, especially LinkedIn on my podcasts, the fitness Oracle, you can listen to the fitness Oracle on Spotify, iTunes. You can watch it on YouTube, wherever you Stitcher, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. I'm there, there's a link with all my episodes. So you can get it's, it's a, it's a free one hour call with me so we can identify the one point that you are missing and that we can hit. 

Right. Right now so that you can, you can start taking charge of your life because 

Speaker 0 (41m 41s): Cause you need to, people need to become the CEO of their life. Yes, yes. Or else, or else you'll be like a paper cup in the wind, in the parking lot, just blowing from here to there. And then when you land, you know what it'll look like when they're 70 years old going, how did I get here? Well, it was your choice. Cause we all have choices, right? 

Speaker 1 (42m 3s): Yup. Yup. Yup. 

Speaker 0 (42m 5s): I'm sorry. That's just a couple because I'm 61 going, wait a minute. I'm doing the rest of my life as the best. Like I'm living to 120. That's just my decision. That's my decision. Hey, so, so w it says here, you got the 12 week fat Sizzler and a free one hour call to find out your pain point and how to help. So how do they get that? Like, I don't have the link for that. 

Speaker 1 (42m 30s): I can send you the link. Okay. Calendly link. I do 

Speaker 0 (42m 36s): Have the calendar link. Okay. So when they go onto the calendar, you can book for the one hour free call, then they'll get you talking to them and then you'll talk to them about the 12 week fats. All right. Did I, did I get that right? Have the Snoopy dance. Okay. Listen, thank you so much for your time, John. You've been wonderful. And thank you for sharing your journey. It's still, I know that you're going to positively impact and inspire millions of people with your story and help them grow through that dark space. 

Speaker 2 (43m 13s): Thank you. I'm actually just going for one, one way. One person. 

Speaker 0 (43m 19s): Yeah. Yeah. I know. But you know, you know what? It's, I'm just a big talker. I'm a, I want to help heal the world before I go to bed forever. All right, John, God bless you. Have a wonderful day. 

Speaker 3 (43m 38s): Hello, chef Michael here. If you enjoyed today's episode, we would love it. If you subscribe to the podcast and left us a review.