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How to be Wild and Well !

December 07, 2021 Dr. Isabel MD & Culinary Nutrition Expert Chef Michael Season 2 Episode 34
MD and Chef Team - The Show!
How to be Wild and Well !
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🔶 Dani says; " I grew up in complete chaos. My grandfather had died by suicide. My mother attempted suicide multiple times. I had chronic diarrhea from all the stress in my house and I had two abusive stepfathers.  I had my very first colonoscopy at age 18. And then 15 years later, I was still struggling with IBS.

I was in a very difficult marriage. I too had decided to die by suicide that morning in Paducah, Kentucky and made the decision that's what I was going to do, and there was nothing anyone could do.

🔶 And then all of a sudden my kids came in the room and it was all God. And they were mama, mama what's for breakfast. My husband was at work and I looked at them immediately and I knew I'm not going to, there's no way I can leave those kids with him.  And I got up, I fed the children food, and the rest is history."

Dani Williamson is now  a Family Nurse Practitioner with a thriving functional medicine practice called "Integrative Family Medicine" located in Franklin, Tennessee. Dani is living, walking, breathing proof that there is a vibrant life after a “lifelong” diagnosis is handed down to you. For decades, Dani suffered from Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Lupus and on and off depression.

🔶 It wasn’t until after graduating from Vanderbilt and working in a naturally minded medical practice that a medical professional asked her a life-changing question: “Dani, what are you eating?  Don’t you know that your diet controls your disease?”

From that moment on, she has been on a tireless pursuit to transform her patient’s lives through her six rules: eat well, sleep well, move well, poop well, de-stress well, and commune well.

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Speaker 0 (0s): Coming up on this episode of the MD and chef team show. 

Speaker 1 (8s): Yeah, but they don't have to be your future. You can turn around that past. You don't have to be your past. You can defy the odds. It doesn't matter what 17,000 people proved during the adverse childhood experience questionnaire. Huge, huge study. Doesn't matter that doesn't matter. It's nice research and it's nice. That was a great system statistics to know that you do not have to be a statistic. 

You can turn it around and that's the beauty of it. And you and I are living, living proof. 

Speaker 0 (46s): Welcome to the show from DMD and shop team. I'm Dr. Isabel medical doctor here at the MD and chef team. And who are you? 

Speaker 2 (55s): I'm chef Michael Coleman nutrition experts. I'm Michelle Clark. 

Speaker 0 (60s): And what are we going to talk about bed? Now? I can see that cause he's my husband, 

Speaker 2 (1m 4s): Because we'll be talking about marriage, relationship, parenting intimacy. Talk about mindsets that success overcoming depression, anxiety. I'll be getting into functional nutrition, recipes and tips from the kitchen. And we're going to both get into how to live a long, healthy, vibrant. 

Speaker 0 (1m 23s): Yes. I love it. Our mission is to help you prevent and reverse the disease and give you both in the process. Oh yeah. Hi Danny. How is it going? 

Speaker 1 (1m 42s): Oh my goodness. It's going great. I'm so excited to be here tonight. 

Speaker 0 (1m 46s): Where are you? Tell everybody where you're 

Speaker 1 (1m 48s): Coming to Nashville. Nashville, Tennessee. I'm in Franklin, Tennessee, right outside of Nashville. 

Speaker 0 (1m 53s): I love your accent. I miss that from America. We don't have that here in New Zealand. 

Speaker 1 (1m 59s): Yeah. Well, I lived in New York city for three, almost three years. Never lost the accent. So every time I opened my mouth, people would turn around on the subway. Like who's that redneck in here. Oh, I don't know. It's thank you. I appreciate it. I love it. So 

Speaker 0 (2m 17s): You were born in, 

Speaker 1 (2m 18s): In Tennessee now? Actually, I was born in Maryland on a Navy base, but I was raised in Kentucky and I moved here 15 years ago when I went to nurse practitioner school and I've never left. I love it here. Love Nashville. Really? 

Speaker 0 (2m 33s): Dolly Parton. 

Speaker 1 (2m 35s): Well, no, but she's all over the place. You always hear, you know where she is and things like that. But if Nashville had an ocean, it would be a complete utopia. There would be no reason to leave here. It's the perfect city. Now people are coming here in droves, but I love it. I like it. So I love it here. It's great. It's a good, good city. Pretty central to everything. Good airport. I can get to New Zealand, but I could definitely fly out of here to get to New Zealand. 


Speaker 0 (3m 6s): Yeah. Well someday we'll be able to get on a plane again and leave New Zealand and come back, come back. It's a little crazy times are crazy right now, but oh, well luckily for us, we know that all pandemics end, right? 

Speaker 1 (3m 22s): Amen to that. Yes they do. 

Speaker 0 (3m 24s): Hey, Danny, how about if I introduce you to our listeners? Because we do love that because we just take off. Don't wait. I know I, and I know you and I are going to be good friends for a long time. I can't wait to see you in person. When I come to America or you come to New Zealand. Cause you're my kind of woman. Danny Williamson is an FNP. Now FNP stands for family, nurse practitioner. And I love working with family, nurse practitioners. 

We don't have them here in New Zealand as much as we did when I was working in Colorado. But I love working with FMPs and she also owns an integrative family medicine and wild and well wellness Emporium in Franklin, Tennessee. She focuses on gut auto-immune thyroid Hashimoto's thyroiditis is her passion, hormone and adrenal health. With her patients, her approach embodies a physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual process to healing. 

She believes that God designed our bodies. I know me. Yes, that's right to heal themselves. We must simply give our bodies what they need. She completely reversed 24 years of chronic lifestyle diseases, which we'll be discussing by healing her gut and building her immune system. Danny incorporates the art of medicine by balancing traditional and integrative therapies. 

Danny also encourages her patients to step out of the realm of normal and reach for optimal health. That's such a functional medicine approach. Isn't it reach for your optimal level? Danny is a sought after speaker at various conferences and workshops where she leads discussions on gut adrenal, thyroid hormone, and brain health. She is on the board of middle Tennessee chapter of the American foundation for suicide prevention and believes strongly in addressing issues of adverse childhood trauma and its relationship to overall long-term health conditions. 

Amen. So important. Her first, her first book, which we're going to be hearing about today, your first book. Oh my gosh. It's like giving birth. Isn't it 

Speaker 1 (5m 48s): Much more painful. It was awful. 

Speaker 0 (5m 52s): Woo. Ah, her first book called wild and well Danny six common sense steps to radical healing is being released November 9th, 2021 by Morgan, James publishing. She believes that your health is not rocket science. I love this. Your health is not rocket science and healing. Shouldn't be either. Oh, welcome to the MTS chef team. 

Speaker 1 (6m 17s): I'm so excited. Yes. It's not rocket science. It's common sense. Practical medicine is what it is, but we're not so common anymore though. 

Speaker 0 (6m 27s): It's not common. It's so simple, but not common. No, 

Speaker 1 (6m 31s): No. 

Speaker 0 (6m 32s): I'd like to start, you know, when I was reading about you and just listening and watching, I was thinking, oh yeah, I definitely want to talk about this. What are, you know, about our past our childhood experiences, ACE, the adverse childhood experiences. Can you talk and share with the listeners, what your experiences with ACE scores with your healing and with others healing? 

Speaker 1 (7m 0s): Yeah. Yes. Well, I grew up in complete chaos, complete chaos. My grandfather had died by suicide. My mother attempted suicide multiple times. I had chronic diarrhea from all the stress in my house and I had two abusive stepfathers. And so I had my very first colonoscopy at age 18. And then, you know, and then I was 15 years later, I was still struggling with IBS. 

I was in a very difficult marriage. I too had decided to die by suicide that, that morning in Paducah, Kentucky and made the decision. That's what I was going to do. Drive off the foot of Broadway into the Ohio river and nothing. There was nothing anyone could do. And then all of a sudden my kids came in the room and it was, it was, it was God, it was all God. And they were mama, mama what's for breakfast kind of thing. My husband was at work and I looked at them immediately and I knew I'm not going to, there's no way I can leave those kids with Greg. 

And I got up, I fed the children food and you know, and the rest is history, but I grew up, I grew up with, with a pretty rough childhood, even though no one knew it, no one knew 20 years old diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome. Then I started itching in my twenties, uncontrollably uncontrolled way, still dealing with, with chaos, with my mother who had been institutionalized a few times. And then she started drinking while I don't know, honestly, when she started drinking. 

And then, then I was diagnosed with lupus in my thirties, mid thirties. And that was a booger of a diagnosis. And the rheumatologists just straight up, looked me square in the eye, leaned in and said, Danny, there's no cure for lupus. Actually. She said, Danielle, there's no cure for lupus. It kills women every year. I mean, I was like, oh my God. She said, and then she said, here's your pain medicine. Here's your anti-inflammatory. And it happened to be what was I put on Vioxx Vioxx. 

And, and, and then she said, you know, when he checked your liver functions every six months or something, I don't know. And then I was depressed. So I got put on every depression, every anti-anxiety medicine known to man, which put the final nail in my coffin because you know, that just totally blunted me, killed my sex drive, but put the final nail in my marriage. I'm in the coffin of the marriage. So, so all that being said, I was sick for a lot of years and did not realize that adverse childhood experiences were a huge, were a huge piece of that. 

They set you up for a lifetime of chronic lifestyle disease. 24 years of seeing doctors, 10 doctors later for gastroenterologist before a family practice doc leaned into me and said, Danny, what are you eating? Don't, you know, your diet controls your disease. Now that helped me get my health back in order, but it did nothing for the childhood trauma that you still had. I still had to work on emotionally, right? 

And so when I learned about adverse childhood experiences, I mean, I've spent the last 11 years helping women and men reverse chronic lifestyle disease by healing the gut. But I missed it for at least eight or nine years that, okay, I can only get them so far if they had a lifetime 18 years of childhood trauma and we've never addressed it, adverse childhood experiences, the American pediatric association, I think his name was Dr. 

Block. He used to be the president of the pediatric association, said it is the number one public health crisis in the United States that we have missed in New Zealand. So in the world, I would assume the world, he said, you know, we've educated. I think actually Dr. Christine or Dr. Nadine Burke Harris said, we've educated these families about putting their children on the backs, right on their backs. We've covered up sockets. We've covered up swimming pools. 

We've done all the things to keep these children safe. Yet. We never addressed the toxic stress going on in the home 

Speaker 0 (11m 29s): And how that affects our limbic system. 

Speaker 1 (11m 32s): You bet it does. And, and we know that the more adverse childhood experiences that you have in your, in your childhood, the higher, your rate of suicide is depression, anxiety, cardiovascular disease, stroke. I will, the list goes on and on, you know, how did you 

Speaker 0 (11m 52s): Feel, Danny? How did you feel when you realize, when you learned about all this? Like, I am not my mother's story. Like this is my story. That's affecting my mental health and I am at risk. I think it's what 200 times increased 

Speaker 1 (12m 7s): Risk of suicide. No, it's 1400. It's four days. If you're, if you're a score is greater than four, you've got a 1400 times risk of suicide. Like, what did you think when you heard that? I was horrified, absolutely horrified and ticked off that my university, my nurse practitioner school had never taught our class of 300 and something. Nurse practitioners at all about adverse childhood experiences. 

Not only did we not know about what was at the end of your fork could kill you or heal you. We were never taught that, you know, this patient wasn't born with irritable bowel syndrome. They turned it on. We were never taught about ASIS, fascinating to me. And, and that was 11 years ago. I was mad. I was mad. I was really mad. And you don't want to know a patient. A patient came to the office one day and said, I want to talk to you about something. And this was like after hours. And he taught me, he's the one who taught me about adverse childhood experiences. 

And he came on my health show that I knew on Facebook on Sunday nights, called Sunday night service. He came on and we taught about adverse childhood experiences. And I've just learned all I could about it since then. And now every single new patient that comes to my office gets this questionnaire right now, this questionnaire, the adverse childhood experience questionnaire that was developed by Dr. Filetti and the CDC in the late nineties, two thousands. And it has changed the way I practice medicine. 

Speaker 0 (13m 45s): Can I ask you a question? Yes ma'am. Can I get a copy of that? 

Speaker 1 (13m 49s): Absolutely. I'll email that to you because we print it. We tweaked it. We didn't change anything, but you can't change anything for going to do that. We've got it in our own format and I'll email this to you. It's also available for free online, your listeners and viewers. If you go to, you can just type in adverse childhood experiences, questionnaire. NPR has one on there. You can take it off of the NPR and you know, it's 10 questions, Physical, mental, sexual, you know what happened to you before the age of 18? 

Speaker 0 (14m 23s): It is amazing. So once you found out 11 years ago, that that had happened, you were like, things were ticking, like, oh my gosh. That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. 

Speaker 1 (14m 33s): Absolutely. But it was only three years ago. 11 years ago, I got out of nurse practitioner school. I was the old one in my class. I went back at 40 and got out at 44. So 

Speaker 0 (14m 44s): It was near just on time. And you're just on time. All my kids, 

Speaker 1 (14m 48s): It was, I feel, that's why I think I taught one of the reasons I talked so fast and I'm so like, cause I know that I'm probably midlife. If I lived to be 110 or 120 I'm midlife, and man, I don't have any time to waste. I got going to spread the word out there. So, you know, it's only been about three, three years and you know, and then my adverse childhood experience score is six, maybe a seven, probably a seven. If you have at least six ACEs, you have an average reduced lifespan of 20 years. 

No, not me. I tried it. That's right. That's right. Absolutely not. With the four of four times the risk of depression or Alzheimer's my mother has Alzheimer's my mother. There's no telling what her ACE score is. Actually three times risk of lung cancer, two and a half times, risk of cancer twice. The risk of auto-immune disease, which is my passion. I don't really call it a specialty or expertise. It's my passion in the office is autoimmune disease. 

And 1.6 times increased risk for diabetes of just four for a score of four. And that something. Yes it is. And so what did that, how did that spur you into healing? Well, it immediately turned me into, you know, I, when I found out about this, I asked, I went into like intensive therapy and not everyone can do that. Not everyone can do that. I went to an end, not, well, it's not really inpatient cause you volunteer to go, but to onsite. 

And I went, I spent six days at onsite and, and an experiential therapy workshop, 12 to 14 hours a day with nine people working on the original trauma in my life, the original one, which was, well, honestly it was being born with the cord wrapped around my neck three times. My mom was talking to me about that today and they told her I'd never live. And she didn't say that was the original trauma, but I didn't really think about that when the original trauma was being molested by my first stepfather. 

And you go back to that and then you, and so that's what I did. That's what spurred it for me. I was like, okay, I'm going to hammer this out. I'm going to forgive my mother for telling me you cause me to lose. The only man I've ever loved when I was probably 13 or 14. And I didn't realize how that stuck with me for decades. So I hammered that out. I went through EMDR and I recommend my patients. 

I tell them anything you can afford, if you can afford to do something like what I did go do it because I'm telling you now until we get that trauma acknowledged and dealt with, it's very difficult to turn off chronic inflammatory response in your body that is continually, continually cycling through. 

Speaker 0 (17m 56s): It really is. It really is. I know for me, my score was greater than four. And when I found out that you're at risk for suicide, well, that made sense. You know why I did what I had done, but also the Alzheimer's part. I was like, that is not going to be my story. And one of the things for the listeners that that can afford this, it's an online course by Annie hopper called DNRs, which just works with the limbic system. Now, if you can go see her in person and do a workshop, that's great, but you can do an aunt. 

She's got an online course that you can do. And then you do the work, you know, it's you do one hour every day for a year on your own that you have to like retrain your brain, your limbic system, but I'm telling you it is magnificent training. It just helps you clear out that you're not living in your past. You're you're right now and now you can move forward. And I love that you've gotten healed up and I just, gosh, there's so much I can talk to you about what are you showing me in your book 

Speaker 1 (18m 59s): When you just said that you're not living in your past? The second chapter of my book is you are not your past. You are not your past. And this talks about my story and all do you know yesterday, I was in Paducah, Kentucky for the very first book signing for the book office manager with me. She'd never been to Paducah. We were sitting at the foot of Broadway at the port of Paducah for, at the Ohio river yesterday. I haven't sat there in a very long time sitting at the foot of that river, watching this huge river boat come in. 

You know, it was really interesting to me because I had come full circle. I was back home book, signing, TV, all of that, but it brought back a whole lot of trauma in me because I knew I watched a car drive down right beside me down the ramp to the wa they weren't going in the water, but they were going to the water and it really triggered me. And I sat there and watched that. And I thought, and I, and Allie looked at me and she said, what are you thinking? And I told her, I said, you know, I was going to drive right off here as fast as I could into that river. 

And I am so grateful. I didn't because it's interesting. And so 

Speaker 0 (20m 13s): Thank God you didn't. I'm so grateful. You didn't Danny. 

Speaker 1 (20m 17s): I'm so grateful. I didn't either. And you know, there was a bigger plan for me, but a lot of people, a lot of people did not have anything that stopped them. And I just lost a patient two months ago, eight weeks ago to suicide. And it has it's devastated me. I missed it. We all missed it. We didn't see it. We did not see it coming. And you know, that phone calls to suicide crisis lines are up 800% since the pandemic 800% fastest growing rate of suicide is, is age 10 to 20 for that group. 

But 10 to 13 is the very fastest 10 years old. 

Speaker 0 (21m 4s): I can't, I mean, yeah, we can explain it, you know, with so much, but I just about you missing it. I really, I would encourage you to not use those words because you and I both know that we're very sneaky when you're going to do something. We don't tell anybody. Okay. So nobody would have, so there are, people are very sneaky and they know how to not let anybody know anything. So how can we know if people don't voice it? Right. 

True. Yeah. So 

Speaker 1 (21m 36s): I hadn't seen her since may, but, and she was just, you know, as bubbly as ever, but 

Speaker 0 (21m 41s): That's right. So what would you, why would you think, oh yeah, you're going to kill yourself in a couple of hours or a couple of days or a couple months. Yeah. So 

Speaker 1 (21m 50s): Yeah know, I know. So, you know, so all that being said, adverse childhood experiences are a huge predictor, but they don't have to be your future. That's not, you can turn around that past. You don't have to be your past. You can defy the odds. It doesn't matter what 17,000 people proved during the adverse childhood experience questionnaire. Huge, huge study. Doesn't matter that doesn't matter. It's nice research and it's nice. 

Those are great statistics to know, but you do not have to be a statistic. You can turn it around and that's the beauty of it. And you and I are living, living proof. 

Speaker 0 (22m 35s): That's right. That's right. And I love that. You said that you are not that statistic. You can, you're in charge of how you're going to go. So I want to know how did you do it? How did you go that mean besides doing the, the inpatient treatment center? What do you do every day to just keep yourself from not saying I'm not there. That's not me. I'm not going back. I'm moving forward. 

Speaker 1 (22m 57s): Do you do you know, naturally for me intrinsically, I don't have a depressed personality. I don't live in the past. I don't, I really, I I'm an only child. My, I, you know, I grew up as an only child. I pretty much blow myself up and I get up and go. But now had I not done the hard work 10 years ago to heal my gut. I don't know that. Well, I know I wouldn't be where I am today because you can't heal the gut. You can't heal the brain without healing the gut. 

So when I started working on the brain and working on the psych issues that I had and all had I not been working on the gut eight or nine years prior to that, I don't know that I would be where I am today, but really the gut was the key for, and just moving forward. And, you know, I just know I'm not ever going back there. And when I started feeling better physically, because what happened to me all those years was joint pain from the lupus was joint pain, ma well, the lupus was the symptom of all the leaky gut that I had going on. 

I realized the disease and I know that, but, but I wasn't born with lupus and I wasn't born with IBS and I was not born depressed or I wasn't born with joint pain. I wasn't born with any of that. I turned to every single bit of it on. And when I started turning that off, I mean, my body just, I mean, I just emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually, everything started falling into line. And I think that's why I have the practice that I do today is that I'm living proof. Whatever you turn on, you can turn off eating well. 

Is key moving well, sleeping well, pooping, well decreasing stress, cultivating community. That's real big. And my community, you know, this as well as I do the community is that Jesus had community. Man. He believed in community and he had 12 flawed humans around him. They were nuttier than made. They were crabbing that all have a story. If you break them all down and look at them, not what the heck they were just like us. 

And then inside those 12, we had a tighter, you know, community. And so I just believe that I just, I, I latched onto my community. My community helped me, you know, and they knew they knew my story. And between healing, the gut and learning how to sleep and learning how to move my body and decrease stress. It just all fell together. And how long do you think it take you to do that? Oh, it took me years, years, years to start really balancing it, all healing. 

The gut was the hardest thing for me because we are so emotionally connected to food. Everything we do revolves around food and my kids were little still. And I had just gotten off of five years of food stamps. Well, when you're on food stamps, trust me that although you can buy good food on food stamps, you know, you people on, or I shouldn't, I don't need to say that everyone on food stamps doesn't know about good health, but I didn't. 

I didn't. So I was buying whatever I could. That was cheap. That was going to help those food stamps go further. Right? Right. Absolutely. So, so organic was not, but as soon as I started controlling what was at the end of my fork and learning what my food sensitivities were and actually decreasing the inflammatory response in my gut, everything started to turn around, but it took me a good year to embrace that. Whenever my doctor cab said, Danny, you've got to cut out the gluten, the dairy, the sugar, the eggs, the soy, the peanuts, the corn, what? 

And then we did food sensitivity testing on me. And when we did that, it took it to another level. But I was mad as a Hornet. It was 11 years ago this week. Yeah. 11 years ago this week when I got my food sensitivity results back and I threw them on the floor. And as a good Christian girl, I said a really bad word. I'm not doing this. And Dr. Kalb looked at me square in the eye too. And he said, oh yeah, you are. If you're going to ask your patients to follow their food sensitivity results, you're going to follow yours. And 

Speaker 0 (27m 16s): What was, what were the big ones for you? 

Speaker 1 (27m 19s): Eggs, number one, eggs. And they're still on there. I got my results back last week. Eggs are still number one. I do them every year. Cashews beings, dairy and gluten. Those are the top five for me. Well, 

Speaker 0 (27m 35s): Ju just so you know, because I, I help my husband and I help people reverse early Alzheimer's and prevent Alzheimer's. Dr. Bredesen is really against, I mean, he teaches us through research and, and real science, dairy, and gluten and sugar just to have, and the seed oils have got to be removed for our brain health. So that's just, you know, 

Speaker 1 (27m 58s): Gluten, dairy sugar. I call them the white devils straight up. They are awful. 

Speaker 0 (28m 3s): And they're so hard to come off of 

Speaker 1 (28m 6s): You bet. They are. And my mom has Alzheimer's and lives in an assisted living. And so do you want to know, well, do you know how difficult it is? Because I was determined the second I read Dr. Bredesen's book. The second I heard him in New York city speak at the integrative healthcare symposium, man. I flew all in there. I mean, I knew what to do before that. Not, not for Alzheimer's necessarily, but for healing the gut. Well, forget it. You know, you cannot, you cannot have a family member be gluten, dairy and sugar free. 

And an Alzheimer's I mean, in a well, in a memory care unit or an assisted living, I mean, if their neighbor is eating biscuits and gravy for breakfast, well, they're going to eat biscuits and gravy. My mom was like, where's my biscuit the very first day. I'll never forget it. She said, where's my biscuit. I said, well, mom, we're going to go gluten free she's. And she said, bullshit. I mean, it was really funny. And I walked up to the, to the, to the kitchen at the assisted living. I said, just forget it just, it didn't even last one male, one male. 

And yes. So all timers and you know, this is the disease of prevention, right? 

Speaker 0 (29m 15s): Yeah. Tony is prevention and you and I are preventing it right now, by the way, we're eating and drinking and sleeping and all that stuff. So yes, yes, yes. Ma'am so you don't have to have Alzheimer's you can pull them down 

Speaker 1 (29m 27s): No matter what your score is, your adverse childhood experience score. No matter, even if it's zero, you know, even if you weren't born with Alzheimer's and I, I am proof if you're not born with it, you can turn it around 

Speaker 0 (29m 42s): Or you might have been born with the APOE four gene, you know, and maybe two copies of that, but it doesn't have to be expressed. 

Speaker 1 (29m 51s): No, that's exactly right. So I'm an APO E two, three. 

Speaker 0 (29m 56s): I know. You're just lucky. You're just blessed 

Speaker 1 (30m 0s): Several people in my office or fours, you know, several, several of my employees are, so I really would love to check my mom just to see, just to see there's not much I can do now, but I would love to know what her genetics 

Speaker 0 (30m 16s): Are because of the scientist in you. Sure. 

Speaker 1 (30m 20s): Well, yeah. And I don't consider myself a scientist to not consider myself like common sense, practical, you know, medicine. We were talking about this because it's not rocket science, right. As we talk about all the time, it's not, and no, it's not you. And I know that 

Speaker 0 (30m 37s): It's not. And so, I mean, gosh, the journey, the journey to healing, and I totally see you living to be 120, because I want to live to be 122 with my husband who you just met. So let's just do it and teach and let the world know, Hey, you can do this. Even if you've been a mess, the first 50 years of your life, you know, got 

Speaker 1 (30m 58s): Exactly right. And when you say, how long did it take you? You know, I tell patients this all the time. They're like, they'll come back and four weeks and they may be stunned better if they add, if they did what I asked them to do, I know they're going to be, but they're like, you know, I thought that whatever, I would lose weight or I'd have more energy. I'm like you are 53 years old, SIS, it's going to, you spent 53 years getting yourself in the shape. It's going to take a little longer than four weeks for us to reverse this. 

So, so, you know, just know that don't throw the baby out with the bath water it's. But every week that you control what's at the end of your fork, that maybe you move your body a little bit more, or you go to sleep a little bit earlier, or you get off this phone a little bit earlier, or you know, all the things that we ask you to do every week that you do that consistency builds resiliency. It is, as it is. As simple as that, I guarantee you in six months, you'll say, whoa, I'm not where I need to be, but I am so much better than I was six years ago, six weeks ago, or six months ago. 

I'm never going back there. I will never, you know that you and I will never go back to wherever. 

Speaker 0 (32m 15s): I will never go back to that buffet. There's 

Speaker 1 (32m 17s): Not enough gluten in the world for me to go back to that. If I'm going to cheat, it's going to have to be something really spectacular. I mean, really spectacular. So 

Speaker 0 (32m 29s): My daughter, my daughter is in Italy right now and I know it'll have you been to Italy? 

Speaker 1 (32m 35s): I went for my 50th birthday five years ago. And let me tell, I had been gluten-free for five, seven years or so by then, dairy free as well, because there is a big one. So I made a decision. I will do the best I can over there, but I am not going to limit myself because I, I felt amazing. I did not have one problem in Italy and I, every pizza, every cannoli, every gelato, every latte, every Ew, anything that involved gluten and dairy, I suppose I ate it. 

It, I didn't have one problem. No July. Why not? I don't know. I mean, the wheat must be different there. Maybe the cows are less toxic. I don't know, but I was so mad. I was like, well, I'm going to go straight virtual. And I'm going to work from Italy. By the time I got home, my, I mean, within three days of coming home, my hands were hurting because I got back here, you know? And, and so, so I, I, I don't know what's going on in the United States, but I made a decision. 

I would eat what I want. And there you go. I haven't eaten it. How long were you there for? I was there for 14, 13 days. It was incredible. 

Speaker 0 (33m 57s): I want to let you know, she, she knows how Michael and I encourage all the whole family to go gluten-free and dairy-free and she goes, mom, they've got, they've got gluten-free positive. I hear. And I'm like, yeah, we can go to Italy. So I just wanted to share that with you. 

Speaker 1 (34m 14s): Yes, but they do have gluten-free pasta there. And, and I tried gluten-free pizza and I tried it because I wanted to try it all out. But I had that book signing last night in Paducah. And I, I knew most of the people that were in this restaurant, they were there, but there was this one lady. I had no idea who she was. And her head was just like this the entire time I did like a 10 minute talk on healing, your body from the inside out. And my little bit about my story was she came up later. She was just there to eat. She didn't know she was getting into some, some redneck woman talking about, she came up, she was born and raised in France. 

And she lives in Mayfield, Kentucky. And she, she bought a book. She actually bought a book. She said, I cannot believe everything you said. She said, I just got back from France. And I told my family, I said, French women do not suffer like American women do. They aren't overweight. They don't hurt. They're not depressed as much. I mean, I'm sure there's some, but she said, I think it's our food. I think it's our movement. You know, all of that. She said, you are literally speaking my love language. 

Oh, yay. And it's about your diet and your stress and your movement and your sleep. And yes, it was really neat to speak to her. She was so engaged. She was more engaged than all the people that I knew that were there listening. She was. But, but other countries, I don't think struggle the way we do many probably do. But you know, we, we eat a lot of processed, packaged bag, fake man, 

Speaker 0 (35m 50s): New Zealand, New Zealand and Australia really is suffering. I mean, I thought when I moved here 21 years ago, that it would be, you know, everybody. So, you know, you think of New Zealand is healthy, healthy, and oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's pretty bad. We don't have a health care system here. We've got disease management. And that's why, you know, I just said, that's it I'm studying functional medicine. But I wanted to ask you, you said, so you had IBS and lupus and urticaria and you were suicidal and depressed and you tried to take your life. 

So did you heal your gut? And then the IBS started going away. The urticaria started going away. The lupus started going away. The depression started going away. Yes. People need to hear this. I hope you wrote this in your book. Oh, 

Speaker 1 (36m 43s): Oh, it's the entire third chapter on inflammation. Inflammation is the devil. It's the it. And then, and then the eat. Well, chapter discusses that in detail on what I did. But the second I knew my food sensitivities, which are controversial. A lot of people don't know they are, but I'm going to tell you, it turned my entire trajectory of my life around because I did not know that I could be eating good food, cashews. 

I love cashews. I ate a lot of cashews. They were my favorite nut. My body hates cashews. And I've never, even though I have healed the, the leaky gut and the inflammatory response in my gut, cashews never went away. I just must have some really severe sensitivity to cashews. So 

Speaker 0 (37m 33s): Which food sensitivity tests did you do? 

Speaker 1 (37m 35s): We use well, back then we had used them, you know, labs and, and they, they, we don't, I don't use them anymore. I use what they're precision point diagnostics formerly done Woody labs, Dr. Cheryl Burdette. Who's a naturopathic doctor. She created this test. It's an IgE and an IgE to a G IgE IgG food allergy, food sensitivity tests. But they also look at compliment and IgG four, they look at four pathways, right? Food can be creating an inflammatory response in your body. 

And the beauty of this test is they only use organic antigens. So I know for a fact, if Isabel reacts to beef, she reacted to a grass fed organic cow, not one fed bad, GMO corn, not one with hormones in it, not one with antibiotics in it. And it's hard to find a test that is true, but you know, uses organic antigens. We look at the top 88 foods in the country. And for me and my patients, it's been a game changer because you could be eating avocados every day and not realize that your body does not like avocados. 

Speaker 0 (38m 49s): But do you look at the IgE mostly? Or, I mean, are you looking at 

Speaker 1 (38m 54s): Both? We look at both and I'll notice that the IgG will change quicker than the algae, of course. And so we look at both of those. I mean, it looks at both and I work with all of it, whatever it is, and the compliment will increase the C3 D will increase your inflammatory response by like a thousand times or something crazy. But we eliminate those foods and the test is broken down one to 88. How Isabelle reacted one through 88. So I tell people if you're so stressed out about this, just cut out the top 10 foods. 

That's okay. And then add some new foods in, add some new foods. We only eat about the same 12 or 15. We don't have diversity in our lives. So even if someone reacts to 30 foods, they probably don't eat 30 foods. 

Speaker 0 (39m 44s): So, but are the top 10 IgE, 

Speaker 1 (39m 48s): It's a combo. It'll be a combination of 

Speaker 0 (39m 52s): How high the acid turns out. Absolutely. 

Speaker 1 (39m 55s): I have to get to great food sensitivity test. I've used it for years. I've gone through multiple ones in the past multiple ones. I think they're the most solid for me. And it's it. It's a, it's a good, solid test. And not everybody wants to do it, but I do cut out patients. I cut out gluten, dairy, soy, corn, sugar, eggs, and peanuts. Those are the top seven foods. And I give them an elimination protocol and some people can afford food sensitivity, some can't. 

So I say, start with this, start with this, add some L-glutamine in every morning to help patch that gut back together, take a good probiotic, maybe a digestive enzyme. And let's start there with an elimination diet and see what happens. And if they can do food sensitivity, we go in, we go into that and that takes it to a whole nother level, 

Speaker 0 (40m 48s): Right? Yeah. For the testing and you know, like functional medicine teaches us test don't guess. 

Speaker 1 (40m 54s): Yes, yes. 

Speaker 0 (40m 55s): Right. Which so many people guess. And I'm like, I had somebody at church yesterday, come up to me and say, oh, you were talking in your I've got, I've got a private Facebook group called the shame-free anxiety and depression community for women. And that was teaching them about inflammation. And I had talked about the gut testing and there's this complete microbiome mapping that we get here in New Zealand, which is so good. I love this test because it tells me what your gut looks like. 

And she said, oh, but I eat so healthy. I know my guts. Well, well, she's suffering from depression. I go, okay. You know, what do you say to somebody that says, oh, but I know I eat so well. Everybody thinks they eat so well. Right, Danny. 

Speaker 1 (41m 39s): Oh my goodness. They're one of my very best friends. And she was at the book signing last night. She, she too thought she was eating so well. And I said to her, so Holly, I'm just telling you, you are not. Now you need to go back and you need to read everything and you need to reread the Virgin diet, which JJ wrote, you know, and it's on the top seven foods. And she called me and she texted me a huge text. And she said, holy cow, I, you were right. 

I was wrong. And she looked, she was looking at labels, which if you're looking at labels, you're eating fake food. It's as simple as that rise, food does not have a label on it. And she said, I can't believe how much soy I'm eating. And again, soy is not the devil. If it was the Asian community, you know, we would all be in deep trouble. It's not the soy, it's the GMO soy or the, you know, everything that you've got in soy. But she thought she was. 

And I saw her last night, she looked fantastic. She said, Danny, I'm basically gone to a vegetarian by accident, pescatarian chicken and fish and all the things. And she said, I'm just eating mainly vegetables and chicken and fish. And she feels incredible. And I, her little face is not puffy. One of the first things you start to notice when you heal, the gut is the face starts to get the puffy down your fingers. Don't look like the little sausages, meaning more, and you get up and your hands don't hurt anymore. 

Again, I don't. I used to put my hands in hot water and I didn't have arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis or anything. I just had, it was what was at the end of my fork was killing me 

Speaker 0 (43m 24s): Food. Like chef Michael says here at doctor on a mission, food is medicine or food is poison. Your 

Speaker 1 (43m 30s): Bowl. Is that? Yeah. And if 

Speaker 0 (43m 32s): You're, if you're going to watch the TV commercials will, then you're watching food is poisoned because nobody's advertising an apple. Nobody's advertising a, you know, piece of broccoli. That's not, what's getting advertised. 

Speaker 1 (43m 45s): I tell people every day and all your listeners, if you are getting your food, which is not food, by the way, from someone's drive through window or take out every day, you are creating systemic inflammation, but you are the lab rat. There is a reason that your food from your favorite, fast food place tastes the same in Franklin, Tennessee, as it does in New Zealand. I don't know if they have, oh yeah. 

Speaker 0 (44m 15s): Oh 

Speaker 1 (44m 16s): Yeah. That same is new Franklin or New Zealand or New York city or Destin. Florida is because it was made in a chemistry lab. It is designed to taste the same everywhere it is designed to, to for addiction fat salt. And you are a chemistry experiment. It is fake processed foods. And just think how many kids are there, we're going through drive-through every morning, getting those kids their breakfast before they go to school. And we wonder why they can't focus and they're add, and they're depressed and they're angry. 

And they're all the things it's fake food. I it's heartbreaking to me. And when you know better, you must do better, 

Speaker 0 (45m 3s): Danny. Yeah, I know. It's so it's so sad to see how tricked people are. It's just so sad. It's so sad. Okay. Well, let's why, don't what 

Speaker 1 (45m 18s): I was going to say. I was going to say something because when women are 50% more likely to have an ACE score greater than five, wow. Women are and five robot fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome are generally poster children for people. Who've had adverse childhood experience. 

Speaker 0 (45m 39s): I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I mean, no fibromyalgia. That makes sense with fibromyalgia because fibromyalgia, if you touch people, they're just so like what happened, you know, in their childhood about touching that hurt all the time. 

Speaker 1 (45m 54s): And do you think your rheumatologist who's diagnosing you with fibro or chronic fatigue has ever given you the adverse childhood experience questionnaire? No. No. 

Speaker 0 (46m 5s): We're not taught. We're not taught in school. I wasn't 

Speaker 1 (46m 8s): Taught about it. My son's in medical school right now. And it'll be interesting to see if he's taught. If he's taught about this or if, what year, what year? The first year, first semester overwhelmed right now. 

Speaker 0 (46m 22s): Oh my gosh. I don't know how it was the grace of God that got me through that first year. That first 

Speaker 1 (46m 30s): It's been a mess. It's been a mess. They are so emotionally torn up because, because of what we're going through with the pandemic at one day classes on one day, it's not, it's virtual one day. They're in the, in the lab one day. They're not because somebody got cut. It's, it's a nightmare. And on top of just the nightmare of medical school, 

Speaker 0 (46m 54s): Which is a nightmare, It's like an ad. It's like an adverse childhood experience all over again, 

Speaker 1 (47m 3s): All over again. Thank goodness. His score is one. His parents were divorced. He took, I had him take it. And he, his is a one. So, you know, we did get divorced before I was 18. So, but, but all of that being said, we've all got childhood experiences. Not everyone has childhood trauma. No, it's rare for me to have a zero in the office rare, but I do get them. I mean, I mean, I do, but I've had as high as tens 9, 8, 9, 10. 

Those are rare. Or also, you know, I would say the bulk of my patients are probably fours and five somewhere around there. And when they did this questionnaire, when they did this study 70, I think it was, they found 70%, no, 68%, 60, 67% of all people out of 17,000 people had at least one adverse childhood experience. 

67%. Yeah. And if you had one, there was an 87% chance of another ACE and a 50% chance of having three. So just having one increases your chance of having multiple adverse childhood experiences. And this group 17,000 B, this group was a middle-class average, 50 ish years, 51, 52 years old, white middle-class to upper-middle-class in San Diego area did not include the black, the brown population or lower income. 

So can, can you imagine if it truly was, 

Speaker 0 (48m 54s): It 

Speaker 1 (48m 54s): Makes sense population. 

Speaker 0 (48m 56s): Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's but it just makes sense. Why everybody's so on? Well, because the underlying your soul is on, well, yes, you're a mid gala. Your limbic system is unwell. So how can you, you know, you have to be a fighter and I just wanted to say something real quick, man, for your son, you know, you and I had talked before about, oh, you must've been so smart to be a doctor. And I go, I just want to let you know something. I have such a hard time taking tests. 

I am just like a dog on a bone. That's all I am. And that's the only way I became a doctor because chemistry wasn't easy. It all has been so hard for me, but I'm just of the nature. Like you like, no, I, this is what I'm doing. And I am like a dog on a bone 

Speaker 1 (49m 46s): All in right now. That's funny. He never calls because of, because of school. Right? So he never, but he's very similar to me. Well, he's way smarter than me. I'm the same as you. I was determined I was going to do it. He called me the other day and he said, mama, I don't know how you did this on food stamps. Trying to feed us divorced with two little kids in two separate schools and, and, and got through nurse practitioner school and nurse midwifery school. 

He said, I have no idea how you did it. He said, I don't have any responsibility. And you're, you're leveled up. You're in medical school now. Yes, it was hard. And I was in an event, an accelerated program. But you know, you, you you're, you're leveled up over there, but he has now seen that his mama sacrificed a whole lot to get through nurse practitioner school because I too, it's not intuitive to me. No. I have a master's degree in fashion design for crying out loud. 

The only one to go through my class in school with a master's in fashion, what, and then not made. 

Speaker 0 (50m 58s): And I have, I have a masters in having fun. That's all I was having that. 

Speaker 1 (51m 4s): And then we turned around and went straight, the 180 degree into medicine. But, but, but again, we are living proof. You can do anything. You put your mind to. If it's go through medical school, if it's a get through nurse practitioner school, if it's heal your body, if it's change, whatever's at the end of your fork, you can do anything you want. And when, when you are sick and tired of being sick and tired, we'll make the change. That's right. 

Speaker 0 (51m 33s): That's right. And that is a perfect bridge to my last question. What three action steps would you give to our listeners so that they can implement and win right away? I think number one is what you just said, 

Speaker 1 (51m 49s): Change what changed diet? 

Speaker 0 (51m 51s): Just make the decision, 

Speaker 1 (51m 53s): Make the decision that you're going to it hands down and you just say, okay, I'm done. I'm done. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. The pain of the change is worth it. That's right. It's the pain of the same outlet. No, the pain of the change outweighs the pain of the same. I'm going to do it right now. That's number one, just make the decision and put one foot in front of the other. And if you mess up, don't throw it all out. Just get right back on it and, you know, set your boundaries. 

I'm a big believer in automating, eliminating and delegating those three things, right? There are three action steps. Your life, life support your life right now, automate everything that you can in your life. Get rid of all the things that, you know, if it's writing checks or whatever, get rid of it, automate it, eliminate everything that is not serving you well. And that means, I mean, that means a lot of things that every job you make there, things you need to, or, or, or eliminate some people that are dragging you down in your life there, Jesus did that. 

He, he kept his boundaries. That's right. Yes. And so automate, eliminate and delegate everything else. If you don't have to have your hand in everything, your world will turn around. When you do those three things right there, nothing gets on your schedule without you approving it. My schedule, my schedule is crazy right now with this book coming out. But I've approved every single are 

Speaker 0 (53m 26s): You on Google 

Speaker 1 (53m 26s): Calendar? 

Speaker 0 (53m 28s): Yes. Me too. Mine too. It's not a Google calendar. I don't have to do. 

Speaker 1 (53m 33s): That's exactly right. So you don't have to say yes to everything. You don't have to be the room. Mom, you don't have, your kids are going to go to fourth grade, whether or not you've been the room mom or not, who cares? You need to start decreasing the stress in your life so that you can decrease your cortisol levels. You can take a deep breath and you can begin to heal your body from the inside out. And people don't like it when you set boundaries, but you need to set boundaries. And that that's huge automate eliminate delegate, and just make the decision. 

I am worth it. I am a child of God. I am a child of the highest king over there. And I am going to live the life that God designed me to live. 

Speaker 0 (54m 17s): I love it. Yes. Oh, I hope our listeners receive that because that is so beautiful. Thank you so much. So 

Speaker 1 (54m 25s): It's never too late. It's never too late until you take your last breath. 

Speaker 0 (54m 30s): That's right. 

Speaker 1 (54m 32s): That's really never too late. Isn't that something 

Speaker 0 (54m 35s): It's so freeing to know. I can change and live the life. I want, no matter what your age, 

Speaker 1 (54m 41s): You bet. And you know, we had a really good opportunity. I know we have to wrap this up, but we've had two years, honestly, to start learning how to cook, to start setting boundaries, to getting our kids in the kitchen, to cleaning up the clutter in our house. I mean, there's so many things that I could talk about here that we've had the opportunity to do. Some people did, many people did. They learned how to cook and not just bread. They didn't only learn how to bake bread. 

When I saw that on the news, I was like, oh God joking. Oh, I know. Right? But we've had an opportunity and things still aren't up 150% yet. So again, start cleaning up the things that the house and cleaning up the clutter and learning how to cook one meal even. And just really realizing that life is precious. We're not guaranteed tomorrow and whatever life, much life I have left, I'm going to live at wild and well, and I'm going to feel good. 

Speaker 0 (55m 44s): And that's what I wanted you to end on. Will you show us your book and where people can find you? Oh, 

Speaker 1 (55m 50s): Oh my goodness. Here it is right here. This is the paperback. It's paperback hard. Back's a little bit bigger than the average book. It's all over Amazon Barnes and noble books, a million Parnassus books anywhere you buy your books. Most places picked it up, which I'm so blessed about. It's a complete book of healing and hope that you don't have to live broken. It's my six steps to healing eat well. Sleep well. Move well. Poop. Well distress. Well commune. Well, and then the whole first part on, on my childhood trauma, it's an incredible book so they can find us. 

Danny is the website and Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. We're all the same. Danny Williamson wellness. And we put out just like you, just like anyone who does what we do for a living. We put out a tremendous amount of free education. Every single day, every day, Instagram is loaded. I've got tons on Instagram, YouTube. Every Sunday night service I do is download it or uploaded whatever. I don't know to YouTube Facebook, I do Fe. 

I mean, it's just crazy because we love to teach. And, and just so your people know, if you have, if you're seeing a healthcare provider who doesn't listen to you, who doesn't believe in your healing journey, who doesn't help you find a way to reverse your chronic lifestyle disease that you weren't born with, then find a new provider, because guess what? Dr. Isabel and Danny Williamson, we work for you. 

We do our meals and we help you find a better way. And if, and shame on that healthcare provider, if they're not helping you find a better way, if they're just pushing pills, we need prescriptive prescription sidewalks saying that at all. But what I'm saying is my heartburn was not a Nexium deficiency. My heartburn was what I was eating. And, and you need a provider who's going to help you walk that journey. 

And who actually is also walking the walk. So you have the right to change healthcare providers. That gets me emotional because I know, 

Speaker 0 (58m 10s): I know people feel like they're stuck with their GP or their family practice or their, or their family or their family nurse practitioner type. No, you're not. You're free fly, fly. 

Speaker 1 (58m 23s): That's right. And find someone not a yes, man. You don't need somebody who's yet you need somebody who is really invested in your health and is practicing common sense. Practical medicine, man, that garbage in equals garbage out. I mean, I really do feel like, I mean, I'm pretty smart, you know, just like you, but I'm not the smartest one there. I haven't built my entire career off of common sense. And when you heal what's happening inside your body and when you heal the gut, everything else falls into it. 

Does it? 

Speaker 0 (58m 58s): I agree. I agree. I love the gut. If all, where are you? Yeah, me too. 

Speaker 1 (59m 4s): Well, I started there because I thought I was dumb and I didn't understand all the things. These people were coming into the office talking about. And so I thought, okay, we're just going to start on food elimination because that'll give me four weeks to buy time to figure out what in the world. These people were talking, we'll come to find out. That's where you start to begin with. 

Speaker 0 (59m 26s): Yeah. And then you get to understand the lab results and go, 

Speaker 1 (59m 31s): And then you heal the gut. You begin to heal the adrenals and then you begin to heal the thyroid. And then you begin to heal the hormones and it all works together. 

Speaker 0 (59m 41s): It's beautiful. How can people not believe in God that God created that God didn't create the world? I mean, and the people I look at the body, like, how did the mitochondria happen with a big bang theory? You know, it's like, this was perfectly created. It's so beautiful. 

Speaker 1 (1h 0m 1s): The first time I delivered a baby, now I'd been a doula for years before I went to nurse midwife 

Speaker 0 (1h 0m 8s): Doula 

Speaker 1 (1h 0m 8s): Doulas help women through labor and delivery. They've been around for thousands of years. That doula actually means woman's serve it. 

Speaker 0 (1h 0m 15s): Actually, I have to tell you, you remind me of a midwife that helped deliver my first baby. She was from Scotland. You look, her name was Sonya. You look and act exactly like Sonny. 

Speaker 1 (1h 0m 29s): I can be quiet in a delivery. I don't chat. Like, but the first time that I, I physically got to deliver a baby, like, well, I didn't physically, the mama did it, but how can you not believe in God? When you see the birth of a baby that came from a sperm and an egg, you can't even see it. Boom. Totally. You can't see it. And you grew a baby in nine months. It's unbelievable to me that a baby is inside that womb one push, you know, you see the head right there. 

You see that? Well up here. See the head and then, well, hopefully not all that crazy hair, but, and then boom, the next thing a baby is out. It's an unbelievable miracle to me. 

Speaker 0 (1h 1m 17s): I believe. I agree. I agree. Yeah. Oh Danny, love you. I know. I love you too. I haven't even met you in person, but I just we've talked. And I just, I have to tell everybody last week we were going to do this, but zoom, something happened and we just, it wasn't working. So, so Danny called me on the phone and we start, we tried to do a zoom on her phone and we were on there for almost an hour. 

Speaker 1 (1h 1m 42s): We could've done an entire podcast, but we talked to talk to talk to him. We rescheduled, 

Speaker 0 (1h 1m 47s): I couldn't figure out how to, how to video it on, on the phone. So I don't know if you can videos, zoom on your phone. 

Speaker 1 (1h 1m 55s): I think you can. But I, I don't, I don't, I don't know. But you know, everything works out for a reason. Yeah. 

Speaker 0 (1h 2m 1s): Yeah. And I delegate that stuff. Just like you said, delegate, delegate. 

Speaker 1 (1h 2m 6s): That's exactly right. You know, you may love to do something, but you're not good at it. My friend Michael's like, he, he, he taught me about that automate eliminate delegate so that you do not need, just use, stay in your wheelhouse. Do not. What's the word do not take away. Somebody who's really good at something that wants to do that. Let them do that, whatever it is, you know, whatever don't tinker around with stuff that you, you may enjoy it, but you're not good at don't really do that. That's not a good use of your time. 

Speaker 0 (1h 2m 39s): John Maxwell talks about that. He says, work in your strength zone 

Speaker 1 (1h 2m 43s): And yes, your strength zone, your wheelhouse, stay in your wheelhouse, stay, stay there and you'll, you'll be happier for sure. So 

Speaker 0 (1h 2m 53s): I just want to let everybody know that all the in the show notes will be all the places where you can find Danny on her website and her book and all that stuff. Okay. 

Speaker 1 (1h 3m 1s): I'm so excited. I hope you love the book. The book is written for everyone. Who's been told. There's nothing you can do. This is your life. There's no cure. You know, and it is an a, just a great book on health and healing and hope there's hope, but it also gives you a strategy. Hope is great, but you gotta have a strategy. 

Speaker 0 (1h 3m 21s): And I see that while well and wild, well 

Speaker 1 (1h 3m 25s): Wild. And 

Speaker 0 (1h 3m 28s): I declare that wild and well will positively impact and inspire greater than a billion people in this world in child. 

Speaker 1 (1h 3m 39s): And then my goal was a million. I was like, I would just want to help a million people. So let's help a billion people know that they, they are absolutely designed to heal themselves or 

Speaker 0 (1h 3m 51s): There more than a billion people in this world. 

Speaker 1 (1h 3m 54s): I don't know how many, 

Speaker 0 (1h 3m 55s): I think there's, I think there's like five or 6 billion anyway. Think big God is big. 

Speaker 1 (1h 4m 1s): Now just a little girl from Gilbertsville Kentucky. What do I know? I know we have like 600 people in my town, so I don't know. Maybe it's a thousand. I don't know. We have a flashing light. We don't have a real white. Oh yeah. It's small town. I was there this weekend started off the book tour, a book tour. I don't have a book tour, but you know what I mean? A book hang out, book tour out because I'm fancy. Like that started off in my hometown. It was so cool. 

It was full circle. I mean, it was a emotional weekend to go back. That book is 55 years in the making. I thought it just took me to two years to get it written and done when I really dissected it this weekend. 55 years. Right. 

Speaker 0 (1h 4m 49s): I know. I know. I know I will two years. Okay. Alright. Thank you so much. All right, everybody. Thank you everyone. This is Dr. Isabel, and this is Danny coming to you on the empty and chef team. Thank you for joining us. Please share this podcast with your friends and family, because there's so many people that are suffering and guess what? They don't have to suffer anymore. Okay. There's oh, I love you a couple of last year and remain on stoppable. 

Talk to you later. Bye bye. 

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