The MD and Chef Team Podcast

Depression and Gut Health, Part #2

Dr. Isabel MD & Culinary Nutrition Expert Chef Michael Season 5 Episode 11

Ever wondered how depression might be linked to your gut health? Join us on the latest MD and Chef Team Show, where we promise to unravel the surprising connection between your brain and your belly. 

You'll learn about the upstream factors crucial for healthy aging, why recognizing yourself as an unrepeatable miracle is vital, and the foods that can either uplift or drag down your mood. With personal stories and our Frankenfood Ingredient Segment, this episode is packed with practical insights to help you live vibrantly till your last breath.

Sugar and carbs, friends or foes? This episode sheds light on how overindulgence in these common staples can wreak havoc on your brain health and mood. Discover the ideal daily carbohydrate intake and the dangers lurking in high glycemic index foods. 

We'll reveal why choosing natural sources like fruits and vegetables over processed alternatives is a game-changer for maintaining a balanced gut and a sharp mind. From mindful eating practices to the risks associated with trans fats, nitrates, and artificial sweeteners, our conversation aims to make you a more informed eater.

Feeling the pull of comfort foods? We've got you covered with tips on indulging mindfully while maintaining stable blood sugar levels. Learn about the critical role of probiotics and prebiotics in promoting gut health and the benefits of omega-3 fats for overall well-being. 

Plus, hear an eye-opening story about the dangers of "frankenfoods" commonly found in hospitals and how balanced nutrition can make all the difference in recovery. Lastly, we explore the concept of trade-offs in relationships, celebrating personal growth and conscious changes that lead to a healthier, happier life. 

Don't miss this episode as we guide you on your journey to reclaiming your health and living your best life, regardless of age.

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Speaker 1:

Let's start the MD and Chef Team Show. Hello everybody and welcome to the MD and Chef Team Show. I'm Dr Isabel, the MD part, and this is my handsome husband, chef Nutritional Chef Michael.

Speaker 2:

Hello everyone, Great to see you today.

Speaker 1:

We're so grateful that you're here. We are so excited we're going to take a deep dive in today's topic, but I wanted to ask Michael Hi Rubio, thanks for joining. I wanted to ask you, babe, why should anybody stick around and listen?

Speaker 2:

You know I was thinking about this and I want to let everyone know. Let's just, I've got a cup of green tea. Why don't you just kick back, grab a drink of choice, just relax, because we're going to talk about bringing you insights and inspiration to help you live forever young, to help you live strong, vibrant, healthy life until your last breath. Because research now shows I mean, I find this so interesting and actually so kind of scary is that we now know that the last 20% of life for individuals the majority is living in unwellness.

Speaker 1:

Oh, people are seeing it out there and you see it all over the place.

Speaker 2:

Meaning that let's just use the average age of about 80. That means between the age of 64 and 80, most people are living unwell, and by that I mean they're living with aches and pains and hospital visits and doctor visits and possibly a stroke or a heart attack, but yet still alive.

Speaker 1:

Or dementia or anxiety depression.

Speaker 2:

And they're still alive for years. And so what we want to do? We want to talk to you about how that last 20% isn't living unwell, but it's living a vibrant, happy life until that last breath. So when you take your last breath, you've had a whole full life, and that's really what we want to bring here. We want to talk about aging well, aging young.

Speaker 1:

Because we shouldn't really be as opposed to aging old.

Speaker 2:

Right, aging young as opposed to aging old. And we're going to do that in this show by talking about upstream versus downstream. The downstream factors of what I was talking about downstream is that last 20%, when you're living unwell and you got all this stuff going on aches and pains and all of a sudden develop pre-diabetes and diabetes, cognitive decline, you're heading toward Alzheimer's maybe had the quote mild heart attack or mild stroke, which really is not a mild one if it happens. That's the downstream we're going to talk about upstream. Well, how do we not get there? How do we get that last 20% of life to be great, living out a great, healthy life that you continue to do everything you want to do, thinking physically, actively, right up until, okay, today's my day? See you Bye-bye. Have a great life.

Speaker 1:

Because you know what we can. We now know that we can with the latest, most up-to-date research, and that's why we're here to help you live well until your last breath. And that's why we're here to help you live well until your last breath not unwell, not sick.

Speaker 2:

So we're here to have a conversation as friends, right? So, like I said, grab a drink of choice, sit back, relax and get ready to catch some insights and inspiration, and especially on today's topic.

Speaker 1:

What is today's topic, Eric?

Speaker 2:

Well, let's take a look at the schedule for today's topic. What is today's topic, Gary? Well, let's take a look at the schedule for today's topic.

Speaker 1:

And Jenna's pulling it up. Jenna's our beautiful producer that's behind the scenes.

Speaker 2:

We will be nothing without our producer Jenna. She makes it all happen behind the scenes. Everybody needs a team.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So today we're going to do part two of depression and your gut. There's a relationship there. And I say, say what? Because we kind of go what Depression and your gut there's a relationship. So we're going to recap part one, the gut, brain bromance. Then we're going to get into why do you say bromance? Well, because there's a relationship, it's a romance. It's a romance or a bromance, I mean it's kind of a-.

Speaker 1:

A bro-y thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's kind of a manly thing to say, but bromance it could be a woman-man, so I don't know how you would say it. All right. Well, today, now we want to really get in once we recap that today we want to get in talking about the foods that dampen our moods and then the foods that are medicine for a good mood. And please keep in mind questions and comments are open all throughout the show. And you're going to want to stick around for this week's Frankenfood Ingredient Segment, because something happened to me yesterday that is very, very relevant to today's world and this is actually going to turn into a public service announcement today.

Speaker 1:

To help you fight.

Speaker 2:

For in the frankenfood ingredient segment.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then later on in the relationship chat hey, if you're in a relationship or you're thinking about ever being in a relationship, you're going to want to hang around for that, because we're going to talk about the law, yeah, the law of trade-offs. Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

We've learned, but it wasn't easy for me.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you, and then we'll look to end up with the empowerment conversation, and we're going to talk about you. Yes, you out there. You are an unrepeatable miracle in what that actually means. So thanks for popping by. Let's get into the show today.

Speaker 1:

And before we begin, please remember, put your questions in. Jenna will bring them them up and we'll answer them after the commercial break. Okay, because we want this to be a an ongoing conversation. We're here for you. We aren't going anywhere. We're gonna be here week after week after week we got the roadmap. You just bring yourself and your energy and we'll get you there. Okay, that's what we're here for, right on alrighty. Okay, so just to recap a little bit about part one last week about the energy, and we'll get you there, okay.

Speaker 2:

That's what we're here for Right on All righty. Okay, so just to recap a little bit about part one last week about the gut health and depression. Normally when we think about mental health, we don't consider the gut health we don't consider and I guess I would say in traditional medicine or even as a society, we think, well, if it's mental health, it's something going on up here in the brain. Why would I look at gut health?

Speaker 1:

We don't realize that there's actually a 24 hour a day connection between your brain and your gut, and I always like to tell doctors guess what? You guys, we didn't realize that there's a neck here and it connects our brain to our gut. So, wakey, wakey, it's all one big picture.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and there's two ways that communicates is through the bloodstream, but then also through the vagus nerve, which is another connection. We're going to talk about that one specifically today and also how that gut health, brain health connection works. But this isn't something that was just discovered. We didn't just come up with it. I didn't just learn about it last week. Medicine has known about this for a thousand years. It's just that it's not being used and followed up with Because Hippocrates, the father of medicine he's called the father of medicine he once said he said this about a thousand years ago bad digestion is the root of all evil and that death sits in the bowels.

Speaker 2:

Now think about that. The father of medicine said that a thousand years ago and knew that that bad health sat in the bowels and indigestion. So a lot of times when we think about mental health, we think about you know just, we want to eat. We want to eat to heal our mental health. You know we just want to have comfort food. If you've ever been down or depressed or not feeling good about things, you kind of like to say I just want to have some comfort food and temporarily feels good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's okay for a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's okay for a little bit Temporarily.

Speaker 2:

I know temporarily, temporarily, but in the long term it'll help us feel good for a little bit, but long term, it's actually going to have negative effects mentally and actually start to even create more problems mentally because of what we're doing.

Speaker 2:

Right, exactly, understand that the vagus nerve and the brain are talking 24-7, connected right here at the base of the neck, right on down to the gut. And when we talk about gut, we're talking about your gastrointestinal system, that is, your stomach, your intestines and your colon. That's the system we're talking about. And when the vagus nerve goes down to the stomach, it goes out like in little fingers. It actually, you know, gets to the bottom and then fingers out. It's like a knitted sweater around your stomach.

Speaker 1:

It's a nice way of putting those nerve cells.

Speaker 2:

And here's a very interesting fact to understand why this is so important. Here's a very interesting fact to understand why this is so important. So the gut and brain are talking 24-7. But for every message that the brain talks to the gut, there is nine messages that the gut talks to the brain. So there's nine times as many messages going from what's going on in your gut health to triggering what's going on in your brain. So, yes, the brain does talk, and that's a whole other area. That's a lot to do with stress and how stress can throw off the microbiome of the gut. But that's only one message. Nine times more, what's going on down in the gut is throwing off what's happening up in the brain. So that's why today I want to get into okay, so if the gut health can be thrown off by stress, but it can also be thrown off by our nutritional panel, because that affects what's going on in the system, then what do we have to do that helps that and what can we?

Speaker 1:

do to help this communication work for us instead?

Speaker 2:

of against us Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 1:

That's what. I'm saying oh, Sheffy, I'll tell you, you are something else.

Speaker 2:

Because, please understand this statement, this fact toxic gut bacteria is like poison to the brain. When we have toxic gut bacteria and we'll talk about how that can happen through our gut health that nine to one message response is going on in this 24-7 highway message highway that can lead to poison to our mental health and our brain. Meaning it throws it all off. Up here starts our thoughts thinking negatively, poorly, anxiety, overwhelmed depression just throws the whole system off. So we want to talk about okay, so what can we do that helps out that gut health today?

Speaker 1:

I love this conversation because, trained as a medical doctor, I know that psychiatry does not work with this. Psychiatry does not work with nutrition. They do not. They're in the middle ages, just letting you know, and that's the state of affairs in psychiatry. I mean, there is no psychiatrist out there. Well, maybe I do know a couple of functional health psychiatrists that are talking about the importance of your gut health and how it affects your brain. So I'm so glad you're here with us right now. You're getting this information, you're being able to implement it into your life, and Michael's just going to go ahead and share with you some simple back pocket principles that you can implement in your life today so you can start winning. You don't have to be downstream, you don't have to hit rock bottom. You can actually start just doing a little bit of this stuff. Yeah, yeah, and we do it by understanding what's going on. So, number one your brain and your gut talk Very much All day long.

Speaker 2:

Tip number one your brain and your gut talk Very much All day long. Tip number one Every day, 24 hours a day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So let's talk about foods that dampen our mood. These are foods that dampen the health of our brain. Where we can become foggy, we might not have great clarity. We can actually start to create cognitive decline, meaning we're becoming forgetful. And before I even go one word further with that, I do want to say please do not believe the myth that it's just old age.

Speaker 1:

What's old age when you're?

Speaker 2:

forgetting things and aches and pains, and I apologize for this. I should have said this at the beginning, but this is part of why we're here, because there's such a myth out there that when cause I've got an ache, cause I've got a pain, because I'm not feeling well, because oh, I got all this going on, you know, when I was 45, I felt great, but now I'm 55 and I got this all going on. It's just kind of all coming on and oh well, I guess that's just me, it's just old age Myth, myth, myth. No, there's something going on that needs to be addressed so that you don't live that way, and that's part of it.

Speaker 1:

Right, you don't have to live in pain and unwellness. Yes, we know that, we've seen it time and time and time again People revers. We've seen it time and time and time again people reversing this and getting better.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

That's what we're so excited about. This is kind of like population health. That's what we're doing is population health into the world.

Speaker 2:

So foods that dampen our mood are foods that are toxic to our brain. Number one, let's say let's talk sugar. Well, we've all heard it here's. Here's the truth about it is our body systems do need energy. We need energy to function. We need that. Macronutrient carbohydrates are the ones that contain most of the sugars. We need that to function in our daily life. The problem is we are adding so much sugar. We're having too much of those proportions in our day. So what our body systems need now we're all different sizes, so this is kind of some averages and again, you know, if you're a much larger person, you might need a little bit more if you're a smaller person. For men, on average, they need around 35 to 40 grams of carbohydrates or not carbohydrates but of energy per day, of sugars. For women, around 25 grams per day. But what we now know? That on average, people are consuming around 77 grams per day of that type of energy. Why?

Speaker 2:

in the form of a sugar, in the form of a sugar right. So anywhere between two to some probably even more, two to five times more than our body systems need. And because we're doing that, we're actually feeding the bad gut bacteria, because we have so much. You know, our gut is made up of microbiomes, bacteria. We have good, we have bad. There's a support, there is a natural balance, but when we have that extra sugars going on number one we're running too much glucose through our bloodstream, which also talks to the brain. One we're running too much glucose through our bloodstream, which also talks to the brain, but we're also running too much sugars through our body systems and feeding too much of the bad bacteria and all of a sudden it starts to overwhelm the good bacteria and throws off the gut microbiome.

Speaker 1:

Sweetheart, can I ask you a question? Yeah, so just to clarify, men need 35 to 40 grams of sugars in the form of carbohydrates yes okay, because I don't want people to think, oh well, I need so many teaspoons of sugar, right?

Speaker 1:

we're not talking about white sugar. White sugar, that's the extra added stuff. That's the stuff that's added. What michael's talking about is, uh, men, meaning needing 35 to 40 grams of carbohydrate, because carbohydrates are your natural sugars and we'll go through the types of carbohydrates that are good for you, and then women only need about 25 grams of carbohydrate, which is your sugar. So I wanted to clarify that because people might be a little confused about that. Okay, thanks, and that's why I'm here.

Speaker 2:

That's why I'm like your audience right now. Well now, well, actually, you're there for a lot. You're actually to bring beauty to the show. Oh thanks, and I know I end up just staring at you and throwing me off our future is so bright.

Speaker 2:

We, we got to wear shades, huh honey Always always yeah, so yeah, what we want to avoid is the extra added sugars where we're adding granulated sugars and sugar additives in the foods, and that's why I talk about with frankenfoods. I talk about reading labels. We need to read labels and look at the things we're purchasing. We need to read labels and look at the things we're purchasing. You know, if I purchase an orange a natural orange it's got a certain amount of sugars in it. But when I purchase, let's say, an orange juice, then I got to look at the sugars in that and I can guarantee it's way, way beyond what just a normal orange would be, because there's a lot of extra added sugars in it and that that you know. We have to be careful of reading the labels.

Speaker 1:

And there's no fiber in there.

Speaker 2:

There's no fiber to balance out the sugar load.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean when I so fruit juices are not good for you. Exactly, that's the bottom line. I like, I like a bottom line kind of girl.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, I just want to explain that even you know we need that. We need the sugars, we need the carbohydrates. It's where we're getting it from. And if I have, uh, broccoli, broccoli is going to have some natural sugars and it's beautiful, it's also got the good fiber, it's got the nutrients we need. But if I add sugar into things or if I'm buying everything that's bottled and packaged with sugars now I'm adding that extra load on top and that really is bad for our moods.

Speaker 2:

Ok, so another one is high and what's called high GI carbohydrates. So these are high glycemic index carbohydrates. What that high GI does is it puts, it puts an extra load on the body of glucose. It overloads our body now with what we've talked about, with those sugars running throughout the system where our body now is working extra trying to take care of it, and eventually it does get to a point where you can start to create insulin sensitivity of the brain, and this is one of the contributors to dementia. And we start to create that because we have too much going on into the brain which can start down in the gut. So we've got to be careful. So things like bread, pasta, rice, white potatoes, any refined flour and things.

Speaker 1:

It's just kind of like what everybody's eating out there, you know. It's kind of like what you see in the cabinet food, lots of bread, lots of pasta, lots of rice.

Speaker 2:

We need the bread Potatoes yeah. I mean it's out there because it's easy and it's cheap, it's easy, it's cheap and it tastes good and it makes people happy for a little bit, but then they crash. And why does it taste good? Because it's got a high sugar, high gi content, which, uh, you know taste buds go wow, that's good. And then you know up you go and down you go, but it's, it's up, and down and up and down and the reason why we're talking about these, because is this a be quiet?

Speaker 1:

no, not at all.

Speaker 2:

I love putting my hands on you and I can get away with it in the show. Well, I can get away with it at home, but also on the show, and these are the foods that will dampen your mood. Keep this in mind. What we're talking about, the purpose of why we're talking about this, is because these types of foods start to throw off your gut microbiome when that gut is talking to your brain, and there's a lot of things that start to happen and really start to throw off your brain health where mentally now you are not functioning optimally, you're functioning slow and long-term, this can create some very, very bad things. So fried foods, anything fried and like in trans fat oils and I know you have some examples- you want to talk about.

Speaker 1:

So trans fats, like? What is a trans fat? Well, the easiest way to figure out whether you're eating a trans fat is look on the label and if it says hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils, that's a trans fat. And trans fats aren't good because they hurt your DNA and they also hurt your microbiome. And some examples of trans fats out in the world are things like pizzas and donuts and cookies and cakes and French fries and fried chicken. Look, look, I know it's out there, but you don't have to choose it for you. You know, and I'm just we're just teaching you these things because we know how tempting they are. They smell great. We're out like, oh my gosh, that smells so delicious. But make a choice, you know. Are you going to take good care of your health? How do you? What do you envision for the rest of your life? Do you want to be well or unwell? And it really starts with what you're putting in your mouth yeah yeah, and I don't touch that stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, maybe I'll have some french fries on the weekend, sometimes when we go out, and once a month or something.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know what we're talking about here with these types of things. It's it's just being knowing about it, yeah, being armed about it, because armed.

Speaker 1:

I like that you're.

Speaker 2:

We're arming them up I mean, do we have? Have we never? Do we never have french fries? No, maybe once a month. But what you want, you don't want to be doing and these types of foods are your normal eating pattern, because that's when things really start to get thrown off. Yeah, I mean, if it's once every couple weeks or once a month or something, fine, but if that's your normal eating pattern with these different foods we're talking about, well, you really need to think, well, what's that doing to my gut health and to my brain health? And if I'm not feeling well up here, then one of the first things we need to do is look at our gut health and start looking at our nutritional panel.

Speaker 1:

And it all starts right here. What are we putting in here?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, chef.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Also in these trans fats margarine.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah margarine.

Speaker 2:

Don't do that. It's not real food. Margarine's made in the lab. That's a Franken food, you know. There's other things you see out there, like the almost butter, or it's near butter, or it's margarine with. It'll say something like margarine with extra virgin olive oil and you think, oh, that's got to be good Extra virgin olive oil.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the marketing companies think we're so stupid.

Speaker 2:

But then you look at the label and when you read it and the ingredients, they'll say oh, it contains 2% extra virgin olive oil. Well, wait a second. Here I mean that really it's not, you know. But they can get away with that, because Because that's the law.

Speaker 1:

It has to be a certain amount percentage Right.

Speaker 2:

And the parameters are set so low that it's yeah, they're just faking you out. So research has shown but not them.

Speaker 1:

They're not getting faked out.

Speaker 2:

No, you're not getting faked out, because you are getting knowledgeable and armed up ready for the fight. So research has shown there's a direct relationship to these types of fats, these trans fats, these things ones we've been talking about and depression. So that's why we bring this up. These are things you really need to be looking at. Okay, so nitrates now, nitrates um are found in things like bacon, salami, sausage, sausage and cured meats.

Speaker 1:

Remember when we used to eat those all the time.

Speaker 2:

And before you go off on this one, I'm going to give myself out there as an example. I grew up in the area of Amish country, pennsylvania. Dutch and bacon yeah, probably two to three times a week with breakfast. The family Salami, sausage yes, all of it. I mean we ate a lot of that kind of stuff Now, but I've learned how the nitrates in there are so bad for us that you know they're carcinogenic meaning carcinogenic meaning they're inflammatory to our body systems.

Speaker 1:

And can cause cancer.

Speaker 2:

They actually they can cause cancer and they actually alternate our gut bacteria in a negative way, in a bad way. Now I'm not saying again, this isn't like never For me, I don't anymore, just because actually I might have bacon, maybe once a month, possibly like some bacon and pancakes special meal, maybe it's a, a birthday, that's kind of a special.

Speaker 2:

yeah, birthday, or mother's day or father's day we do gluten-free pancakes gluten-free pancakes and some bacon and eggs might be a very special meal, but uh and again, this is just another one of these ones we've got to be very careful of, and I understand if you say, well, I can't stay away from it. I get it.

Speaker 2:

We get you, I didn't for most of my life until I started to understand this, and I want you to know that I'm not saying this in particular led to this. But I personally, at the age of 50, being in very poor health when I was back then that I needed to look at things in my life and the lifestyle I was living and what I was living on. And I can tell you, both of my parents died very young. I would consider this young. I'm not sure if you consider it young. I would think you would, but both of my parents died young, my mom at 53. My dad at 69 from chronic disease. I can tell you their nutrition was horrible. They didn't know at the time. I didn't know, we didn't know when they died, to say too much about it. But am I saying that was the only thing? No, but I can tell you it definitely would have been a major contributor to their chronic disease, early deaths. And so why do I talk about these things? Why do I look at these things? Well, there's no silver bullet, but I tell you what I want to put the scales of longevity on my side, as far as I want to balance it out to the positive on my side, no matter what I can do to make it be the best.

Speaker 2:

So let's talk about the next one Artificial sweeteners. I mean, this is a biggie out there. You see this in so much stuff. Things like aspartame, saccharin, sucralose, anything that's the oses, o-s-e-s. There's so many of these different oses that the food industries are using. Those are all high sugar content, franken foods, I guess you would say additives. So I want to let you know. There was a in 2017,. A study showed that aspartame increases substance in the brain that inhibit the synthesis of and release of the happy neurotransmitters dopamine, serotonin and noradrenaline.

Speaker 1:

So that means that aspartamine affects your happy hormones.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I was going to say, well, that's just wrong, yeah. Because it's touted to us, to women especially or anybody that's trying to lose weight Using a set of sugars.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and as a diet.

Speaker 2:

As a diet right.

Speaker 1:

As a diet substitute for sugar.

Speaker 2:

But recent studies have now shown that. Well, number one one we now know that people gain weight on artificial sugars because it's supposed to kind of trick the body, and it tricks the body negatively. But also it's inhibiting the things we need in our on our brain, the, the happy hormones, and it's actually stopping them from being made.

Speaker 1:

Shall I say, a food, yeah, a chemical, put into our body, yeah, sold to us because it's going to help us lose weight, but we don't lose weight, we actually gain weight and it messes up with our brain messes up our brain hormones and help messes up our brain.

Speaker 2:

Gut discussion yeah, yeah, like it does that, why doesn't it?

Speaker 1:

say that on the label.

Speaker 2:

No, but that doesn't make money I know, but that's just wrong.

Speaker 1:

That's evil. It is just letting you know.

Speaker 2:

It is Well, it's time, isn't it? Well, we're going to take a short break and after the break, I'm going to come back with the foods that are medicine and elevate our good mood, the foods that are good for our gut health and good for our brain. While we take a short break, I just want to let you know, please remember, that if you want to learn more about us, you can go to doctoronamissioncom. Right there it is doctoronamissioncom. Learn more about the MD and Chef team.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Hey, Jenna says we got questions. Why don't you bring the first one up, Jenna?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's see what we got.

Speaker 1:

Rubio, when you say temporarily it's okay to have comfort food, what does that mean? Daily weekly, monthly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fantastic question. Thank you for that, rubio. Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes we're just feeling down, maybe we've, you know, life's just knocked us around in that and we just want to have some comfort food. What I'm talking about is just that day. I mean, maybe it's two days, but really don't want to stretch it out because what happens is then we start to turn it into our normal routine. So if you're feeling down, you're feeling depressed and you just want to say, hey, I want some comfort food, today I'm just going to have some pancakes and bacon and I'm going to have later on.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to Whatever they decide, everybody's-. I'm just giving an example.

Speaker 2:

Later in the day I'm just going to add some pasta, or maybe I'm going to have pizza and I'm just going to kick an example Later in the day I'm just going to add some pasta. Or maybe I'm going to have pizza and I'm just going to kick back and relax and, just you know, have some comfort food that just fills my tummy up and makes me feel good. Because, yes, it will in the short term. But then you might want to do my suggestion would be two days max, because once you start to go beyond that now mentally it starts to become easy to do that and you kind of and it starts to be too long now you're really starting to affect your gut microbiome negatively, that now it's going to be tougher to start to kick back into thinking, okay, how am I going to kind of start to move through this and move past it? Because maybe it's a you know as uh, as our producer, jenna, had mentioned earlier, it might be become a pattern and you don't want it to become a pattern.

Speaker 1:

so fantastic question, thanks, I would just you know, if you're feeling like that, I'd limit it to two days at most but if you see, if you find yourself with your hand in a bag of potato chips and you can't just have one day after day after day, call us and we'll help you get off of that. Okay, because it's not supposed to be day after day, it's just a quick help and then that's it. But no, you know, if it goes on too long, it's just not good.

Speaker 2:

And total transparency as well, and I had a very difficult week last week. There was a lot going on. We actually took a mental break and, you know, we went out and we stayed gluten-free, when we you know this is just us we stayed gluten-free.

Speaker 1:

But we had ice cream.

Speaker 2:

We had a gluten-free pizza and a salad, a couple glasses of wine and some coconut ice cream afterwards.

Speaker 1:

They're probably like oh wow, you guys, you're like whooping it up, but for us, you know for us that was really a comfort food type day, and I forget what else and we had more bread.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we had some gluten-free bread with toast and we didn't have French fries that time but we have in the past.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so that day for like 24 hours we just said, nah, we'll just kind of do our thing and relax, and yeah, we felt great in that. And then the next day we woke up and was kind of like, okay, man, we need to get back on track here again. Yeah, but you like, okay, now we need to get back on track here again. But in a couple days, just do your best not to make it a pattern. That's really the key. So great question there from Rubio.

Speaker 1:

Thank, you Rubio.

Speaker 2:

All right, so foods that are medicine and elevate our good mood. So we talked about high GI carbohydrates like the pastas and the bread and rice and those types of things. But we want the low to medium GI. Gi means glycemic index. It means that load of glucose, that load of sugar that that food is going to deliver into your system and you want it to be low so that it just keeps those amounts of, as we talked about the amount of sugars that our body needs. We want to keep those low going in.

Speaker 1:

So that your blood sugars are more stable. When you have high GI foods your blood sugars spike and then the drop. And the drop is where you start feeling yuck. But if you're having a medium to low GI food, then your blood sugars are more stable. You're not going up like a roller coaster.

Speaker 2:

So this is where you're going to get the best way to get your daily sugars and, naturally and vegetables.

Speaker 1:

Vegetables are carbohydrates. Vegetables have sugar on them.

Speaker 2:

Carbohydrates are not a bad word. We need that as one of the three main macronutrients. We need those natural sugars to fuel our system. I mean, if you're walking and moving your body, your body needs the energy to make that happen. You need it to grow your muscles and your bones and keep your brain functioning and everything moving. So vegetables, lettuce, greens, raw fruits not dried fruits nuts, seeds, beans those are just a couple of good examples of where we would get some really nice low to medium GI carbohydrates. Now a couple of other things we want to do that are good foods to elevate our good mood is we're going to talk about probiotics, because we probably all heard about these, but it's kind of like, yeah, I've heard about, what is that, what do we do? Heard about these, but it's kind of like, yeah, I've heard about what is that, what do we do? Probiotics and prebiotics. Now we're going to have Dr Isabel jump in on this one, because she really enjoys talking about probiotics and prebiotics.

Speaker 1:

Well, I like to I always like to explain the gut as like a playground. It's a playground of all these kids playing and some are bullies and some are nice kids, and it takes the whole playground with a teacher in the middle making sure everybody's under control. And so there's the best way I can explain it is probiotics are the good kids? You want a lot of good kids in there? Okay, because that will overrun the bad kids, and probiotics are basically just giving your body the good bugs into your system. And then, in order and did you want me to explain that? There's the yogurt.

Speaker 2:

Or you can just give a couple of examples of what a probiotic would be that people can purchase.

Speaker 1:

Right, Because if you've got a lot of the bullies in the playground, you're going to have poor gut health and it'll mess up your brain health. So we want to make sure that the good kids, the good bugs, are in. So the good bugs, the probiotics, are things like yogurt with active cultures, but make sure it doesn't have sugar in it. Okay, Because there's a lot of these yogurts and they do taste very, very nice, but they've got a lot of sugar in it. Things like kefir, kimchi, sauerkraut, tempeh, miso and kombucha. And I wanted to ask you can you find kombucha without sugar?

Speaker 2:

No, it's always because that's kind of how it's fermented with sugar, so it's always going to have some amount of sugar. But you want to be careful on the kombucha you get. I mean, just check it out, check the sugar content of it. You want to get one that's as low as possible.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it could be great probiotic for your system, but if it's a kombucha and it depends how it's made and I've seen ones where they actually add extra sugar into it if that sugar content is really high in it, well it's not actually doing any good Because, yeah, you're getting good probiotic, but you have such a high sugar content in it that you're feeding the bullies, the bad bacteria, right? So it's kind of like it's not really doing anything. I mean, don't think then I'm doing it for health thing, I'm just drinking it because I like the flavor. So you got to really take a look at what kind of kombucha you're getting and take a look at those sugar contents and making sure that actually some, like I said, especially ones that are mass-produced, will have extra added sugars in it. And now you're not doing any good, because same thing in saying that with sauerkraut.

Speaker 2:

With sauerkraut if you were to best make yourself. But if you were purchasing sauerkraut, it needs to be unpasteurized sauerkraut because again, you're doing it as a probiotic to get the good bacteria. But if we think about it, if it's a pasteurized sauerkraut, well, the bacteria is killed because that's what pasteurization is.

Speaker 1:

Is it so now?

Speaker 2:

it's not really a probiotic.

Speaker 1:

It's heated.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So if you buy sauerkraut, if you buy kimchi, you want to get brands that are unpasteurized. Otherwise, you're just buying it because you like the flavor. It's not really doing anything for your gut health.

Speaker 1:

And then, of course, with yogurt. I was just going to say and again with yogurt.

Speaker 2:

Be careful of those yogurts. As Isabel said, Some of them are just loaded up with extra sugars and again, and they taste great, but they're not good.

Speaker 1:

They're not doing you any good.

Speaker 2:

As far as a probiotic they're just, you might say they taste good right so and then in order.

Speaker 1:

Then there's prebiotics, and prebiotics is the food that you give the good kids in the playground. The good kids in the playground, the good bugs in the playground. So prebiotics function as a food source for your guts microorganisms. And the yummy foods that are prebiotics are things like garlic, onions, leeks, asparagus, jerusalem artichokes, dandelion greens, bananas, apples and flaxseed. So probiotics are the good bugs put in, and then the prebiotics is the food to feed the good bugs. The probiotics Isn't that amazing. Oh, your body is just so amazing.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's very cool.

Speaker 1:

So cool.

Speaker 2:

Now a couple other things. I want to run through with the good foods, the foods that are medicine for our gut health, that will elevate our good mood Omega-3 fats. So we get a lot of that from what's called smash. Smash fish Salmon mackerel, anchovies, sardines and herrings yeah, doesn't sound good, probably not your favorites, but those are the best ones that are high on omega-3 fats. Smash just think of the acronym SMASH Salmon mackerel, anchovies, sardines and herring those are your best ones to eat to get your good omega-3 fats, which are very, very important for our body systems and for our brain health and for a good gut health. Also, grass-fed organic beef Notice the wording grass-fed organic beef. It's good for our omega-3 fats. And then edamame beans if you've ever heard of edamame beans- what are those Ben?

Speaker 2:

They're a bean bean right but, we've seen them before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're used a lot in uh asian cooking and we've seen japanese cooking. We see them in this part of the world a lot. Uh, we're here in new zealand, uh, but edamame beans are very high in omega-3, so that's amazing, as, yes, you might want to check those out for your area. It just depends where you're at in the world how you can get those Walnuts very high in omega-3s, beautiful. Just think of walnuts Like when you get walnuts, what do they look like? They look like the brain. They look like a brain.

Speaker 1:

They really do yeah.

Speaker 2:

Walnuts are great for omega-3 fats, and chia seeds. Chia seeds are excellent for omega-3 fats. So that's just some good examples there. Those are all very good for you.

Speaker 1:

Gosh, that's amazing. A chia seed has a lot of omega-3s.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So let's talk about other healthy fats. Extra virgin olive oil Again, beautiful Extra virgin olive oil. Avocado fantastic. Avocado's also got a lot of fiber in it, so avocado's a fantastic food. Or even avocado oil is awesome Olives olives are great, olives are great good fats.

Speaker 1:

Nut butters not peanut butter, because it's not a nut, but nut is not a nut it's a legume. It's a legume which is a bean. Yeah, right, yes, so it really should be bean bean butter. It should be called peanut peanut bean, pea pea bean, it should be called pea bean, pea bean yeah instead of that's gonna work, peanut butter I know because people should change it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it should be called pea bean. So for those of you who love peanut butter, like I love peanut butter, but I stay away from it because, yeah because it just doesn't work for me, yeah so nut butters, almond butter, macadamia butter, those types of things, those are very good fats.

Speaker 2:

Tahini is another one good fat, good protein, that's a sesame seed paste. And then also butter, real butter, not margarine, but butter, real butter, the good one. And finally, just some herbs and spices that are actually very anti-inflammatory, that are good for gut health. So turmeric, real turmeric, raw turmeric, fresh turmeric, the curcumin in there is such a beautiful, beautiful, anti-inflammatory Ginger, and again I'm talking about the raw form, the real Ginger. Coriander or cilantro however you, whichever part of the world you're in, coriander, cilantro, same thing. Saffron Saffron is so good, I know it's a little more expensive, but that's beautiful, beautiful spice. Oregano, another one that's fantastic. Lavender and black pepper.

Speaker 1:

So cooking with lavender is a good idea for our gut health.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes or even with lavender, just lavender oil, lavender oil If you get some beautiful fresh lavender oil oil, because if you put it on your skin it'll go into your skin and be absorbed and go into your bloodstream, so it can work well that way too. Oh, okay, yeah, and it's actually a lovely soothing for our body and for our systems. So those are some great herbs and spices that's good for your brain. So just to recap today, this part that we talked about the big recap.

Speaker 2:

I want to let everyone know that toxic gut bacteria can poison the brain via the constant gut-brain communication that's going on. So think about this communication that's going on. So think about this Every bite of food and every gulp of liquid, every gulp of hydration we're taking because we haven't touched on that but understanding that there's bad drinks that can throw us off too they're going to impact that communication between the gut and the brain, either positively or negatively. Every bite of food, every gulp of drink, it's going to impact that communication. That's going on in one way or another all day long, in one way or another, all day long.

Speaker 2:

So think of this equation, because the number one habit you have control over your mental health is this following equation you have control of this. We talk about the upstream contributing factors for that. Downstream, you have control of this. Good nutrition habits that we've been talking about and we talk about all the time equals good gut health, equals good mental health. You want to do your best to stay away from overwhelm, anxiety, depression, fogginess, cognitive decline. Start to concentrate on your gut health, which is through your nutritional way of eating, and that's your number one factor that you have control of very well said excellent.

Speaker 2:

I'm I'm just so fascinated with this gut brain connection that it makes such a difference for mental health it really.

Speaker 1:

it's helped me out and we only really learned it from our experience together with me 10 years ago.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and you have learned a lot.

Speaker 1:

We've learned so much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because we've been there. We've been on the side of very, very, very bad mental health and dark places and that, and we had to understand what the heck were we doing, what were the contributors that had taken us down that path? And this was one of the main contributors Understand our gut health was a mess.

Speaker 1:

You know a lot of people, if they can just get their gut health under control, they can get their mental health under control. They can safely, with their doctor's help, come off their antidepressants. So just keep that in mind, these things that Chef Mike's talked to you about.

Speaker 2:

So, now. I want to move on to the next segment. This is called the frankenfood ingredient of the week.

Speaker 1:

Oh boy.

Speaker 2:

Hazardous chemicals, frankenfoods. And why do we bring this up? Why do we talk about this? Because this is so, so important. Right now. There's so much in the world of food that's being made in the laboratories like Frankenstein the monster made in the laboratory. That's why we call them frankenfoods. These are foods and things that are made in laboratories that are so bad for us and things that are made in laboratories that are so bad for us, and this week we're going to bring you what's called a public service announcement. This is so, so important. This is a public service announcement for everybody out there. So if you're, even sideways, listening to this show slightly, please, please, pay attention to this, because someday, what you hear right here could save a person's life. It could save years on a person's life maybe yours, maybe some family members, but somebody else's. So this is so, so important. So yesterday why I was going to talk about something different, but I have to talk about this today.

Speaker 2:

We have a friend of ours who recently was in an automobile accident. I went to visit him in the hospital yesterday. I've been in there for about six weeks or so now. I've seen him a couple times, went to visit him yesterday, and I won't run into all the details of it, but he got pretty smashed, very smashed, very injured, very smashed up, and during the time I was there he was actually eating his dinner. But also and this is in a hospital but also then they came in the caretakers came in to start asking him what he wants for tomorrow and they've got a printout sheet. He needs to check which ones he wants for tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

So, in saying this, I want you to know that our body has been created by our creator, god. Whatever you feel is your creator or what we believe, god, whatever you feel is your creator or what we believe in God, our creator has created this human body that has the power to heal itself. We heal ourselves every day. We all know. If we get a cut or something, yeah, we might put a bandaid or plaster over it, whatever you want to call it and we heal. How does that happen? We have a natural healing ability of our body heal.

Speaker 2:

How does that happen? We have a natural healing ability of our body. Now, we can heal quicker or slower, also by the things we do, especially nutrition, because when we're healing, we need to feed the healing process with good nutrition. So the body goes. Wow, this is fantastic. I got all the nutrients I need. Man heal, I can heal, I can heal, or there could be a negative way. So I sat in the room and I got to hear what the guy was offered, what this gentleman was offered. So for breakfast he had a choice of corn flakes or what's called wheat bix, which is some kind of other cereal.

Speaker 1:

So he had a choice of two cereals.

Speaker 2:

He had a choice of milk and then he had basically it came with toast, and then he had a choice of either juice or tinned fruit, meaning canned fruit. All right, if you know anything about what we're talking about here. We have three macronutrients that are all so, so important for our body to function. We need proteins, we need carbohydrates, we need fats. We need all three in equivalency. We need all three to function and to heal. In that meal there's no fats. In that meal there is no protein. Well, there might have been a little bit of fat in the milk, but in that meal there's basically almost zero fat, almost zero protein and all carbohydrates, all high GI carbohydrates. So that body system was getting a massive hit of sugar.

Speaker 2:

What we've just been talking about, that's what his hit was for breakfast, to start his day, when the guy he can't actually move around, he's laying in the bed because he got broken up pretty bad. Lunch was a choice of a sandwich with, you know, a couple pieces of bread and a piece of beef sandwich, an egg salad sandwich or vegetarian, and again a choice of juice, tin fruit, and then dessert was either a custard or jello, or here they call it gelatin, but jello, and the one he had had when I was there was a red one. Well, if you've watched any of our shows, I talk about the red food dyes and how carcinogenic they are to our body and, of course, if you're eating red jello, of course that's in there. That was the choice for lunch, and then dinner was a choice of some fish, some beef, which is good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, some beef, some chicken, Good, but then also either potato or rice and then also bread, and so I had bread at every meal. And then again dessert, which was either the jello or the custard. The custard is just sugar, basically. I mean it's with some egg and some milk, but pretty much it's made with sugar to make it sweet. This guy, I felt so bad because I thought, oh my gosh, his body says his body is trying to heal, but his he's not getting fed the nutrients. He is lost in about a month like 10 kgs of muscle.

Speaker 1:

Which is like 20 pounds.

Speaker 2:

About 20, over 20, about 22 pounds or something like that. And because he's getting no protein. He's getting, well, he's getting such a minimal amount of protein, he's getting all the sugar shot into his system, hardly any good fats at all. And I'm just there and I'm thinking, oh my gosh. And so why I call this a public service announcement is because I said to my beautiful wife Isabel it's like if I'm ever in there, don't let me eat that food. I mean, I don't want, I don't expect to be there, but you know, who knows, maybe something happens and I end up in the hospital. Don't let me eat that food. You've got to bring me the proper food.

Speaker 1:

So from a medical doctor, I'm here to let you know that you can fight for the right food. You can let them know I am not happy with the food that this person is eating and I'm going to be bringing in the food Now. If the doctor says, well, we really need it to be low salt, okay, you can follow a low salt diet, but there is no reason on earth for somebody to be in the hospital to be eating carbohydrates most, I'd say, 80 percent carbohydrate. It's just not going to heal them at all. This has been going on forever.

Speaker 1:

My medical training, as I trained as a doctor in the hospital, this has always been that that's back in the 1990s. Well, actually I graduated in 1991, so that's back in 1980s. That's still the way it is. So hospital food is absolutely atrocious. You have the the right to fight, to say look, I am not, I want to supply the food. You know, if something happens that you need to be giving, bringing in protein shakes, you can create a great protein shake with protein and fat and carbohydrate and some creatine which will help build muscle and bring it in. They can drink it. And some creatine which will help build muscle and bring it in. They can drink it If something's going on with their gut. Just let them know that you want to be supporting your person's health your husband or your wife or your child's health with better food, because that food is not going to help you.

Speaker 1:

You have the right to do that, but you've got to fight.

Speaker 2:

Bottom line for medical doctors. You've got to fight for the health of that person who's in there, and if it's you, then you're telling others please bring me what I need, Because your body has the power to heal, but you got to assist it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's what you need to do, and I saw that firsthand and I know I needed to bring that out and then talk to you all about that. So if you've heard that, please know that you've got the power. You do not have to accept what is given to you. You can take charge. We call it all the time of being the CEO of your health. You can be the CEO of somebody else's health. If you see it going that way and say, no, I'm going to help this person, here's what I'm going to do for them. If you've heard this and you ever have any questions and that's going on please, please, please, dm us wherever you can find us on social media or here on the show, and we'll help you through that. But you got the power to make sure that that gets taken care of properly.

Speaker 2:

So that was a public service announcement today. I mean, it ticked me off. He was, I was. I came out of there a mess I was like ah it did steal your peace but yeah, yeah, yeah, but you got it back, I got that okay. So today let's have a chat, let's have our relationship chat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's change channels here.

Speaker 2:

Change channels and relationships. Oh, there's some trust going on there. I can tell, yeah, she's trusting him that she doesn't go flying. So today in our relationship chat, we're going to talk about the law of the trade-offs. The law of the trade-offs If you're going to be in a relationship, you're probably going to have to make some trade-offs, because now it's one and one has come together as one being two, and there's some trade-offs that need to happen. You have to give up, to grow up, and when I talk about giving up, I'm talking about you might have to give up some habits, some characteristics, some things you were doing before this relationship. That probably isn't going to serve the relationship well. Some changes you personally may probably have to make to say, well, I need to change this to make this relationship work. Well, we're not talking about all of a sudden you know you can't do anything and all this and that that's not what we're saying but we all need to make some difficult changes. Now I just want to talk about one of mine.

Speaker 1:

Why?

Speaker 2:

Just because I was about to talk yeah, because I'm taking control and see this is one of the trade-offs. Okay, babe you go first, yeah, yeah, we're trading off, but I'm coming back this whole show's a trade-off, but for me the one that I had to start to realize was I needed to look at my guy friends and say, wait a second, is this serving this relationship?

Speaker 2:

Because as time went on, some of my guy friends that I was hanging around I realized, oh, these guys probably aren't serving me well to be part of the relationship because they were single guys doing single guy stuff and I couldn't be stepping back into that. That wasn't where I was anymore and it wasn't that they were bad people, they just had different priorities in life and I kind of said, well, no, I don't want to do that, let's do this, and kind of changed my thought processes and it wasn't an overnight thing, but just kind of eventually faded away from those friends and you know, sometimes it could be a change of friends just because those friends don't serve the relationship well.

Speaker 1:

You just got tired of me complaining about them too.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you were right. At the time I thought you were complaining, but now I know you were right, but I didn't understand it. It took me time to get there. Hey, thanks, rubio, appreciate that.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

And so yeah, so for me it was changing some of that, those friendships, especially the guy friendships, to like, hey, anyway, this isn't serving our relationship and because now I have a someone who's the most important person in my life and these guys are not the most important, love them. But if that's going to hurt my relationship, then sorry, guys, been great, nice knowing you. So what do you have for a trade-off?

Speaker 1:

Well, I thank you for doing that, because I know that wasn't easy, because you always want to be liked, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we all do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that was your posse or your gang.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know kind of.

Speaker 1:

Well, I have two that I could pick from. I think I'll just pick from the first one. When Michael and I get together and we're studying this stuff and I go oh okay, yeah, I can talk about this. I want to share this.

Speaker 1:

One of the things I had to give up is fighting. I grew up my dad daddy was such an alcoholic my dad daddy was such an alcoholic and he would come home from work and be drunk and yell and scream and oh, I never knew peace in my family. I did not know peace in my childhood. I just all I knew was yelling and screaming and being afraid all the time. So I learned how to fight and fight loud.

Speaker 1:

The louder you were, the stronger you were, because mommy was a peacemaker and she got overturned by dad all the time. So when Michael and I got together, michael is Mr Peace and I wish I could get a personality transplant because I want to become more peaceful. I'm actually working super hard on becoming a more peaceful person in the latter part of my life, but I had to learn this is what would happen is Michael and I would start a discussion and we wouldn't agree, and then I'd start yelling and then he wouldn't say anything, and so I started screaming because he didn't respond the first time, so I'll just turn it up louder and louder.

Speaker 1:

And then Michael's personality is no, I'm not, I am not, I'm stepping away from this buffet, and that would make me even matter, as you could imagine for those of you who have my personality. And so I just realized that Michael just had a lot of peace and joy in his life and he didn't let anything upset him and everything would upset me, and I was just a fighter and people were kind of afraid of me and I kind of realized that and I thought, okay, that's it, I want our relationship to be better. And so I worked really hard on not fighting, like a lot of times I just keep my mouth quiet because I don't have anything to say. And so I've just learned that that that's important and that has taken a long time, but we don't do that anymore, do we?

Speaker 2:

No, we don't.

Speaker 1:

And we're doing great now, but it was ugly the first 25 years, right.

Speaker 2:

About that, yeah, yeah about 25 years until we hit. Now don't put it that scary.

Speaker 1:

No, guess what? It doesn't have to take you that long.

Speaker 2:

You can learn from me. You don't have to take you that long.

Speaker 1:

You can learn from me, you don't have to go through that minefield, but fighting just doesn't work.

Speaker 2:

So, just talking about the law of tradeoffs, I want to leave you with this the difference between where we are now in our relationship and where we want it to be is created by the changes we're willing to make in our lives. Isabella and I had to look at where we were in the relationship and how we wanted it to truly look, and we both needed to make changes changes in different areas of our life and we call those trade-offs. We can continue to do what we're doing and not do a trade-off and be like, nah, I'm just going to continue this way, but that's not going to, wasn't going to get us to where we want it to be in our relationship. And here we are, a couple of weeks out from our 44th anniversary of being together, so I feel it's gone pretty well very good, we keep on moving forward and up together yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I want to leave the folks today with an empowerment statement from you, my love yes, I.

Speaker 1:

I just wanted to close this segment of the MDN Chef Team Show, leaving you with a statement that I always said to our girls. And they'd go oh mom, you always say that and I'd go. Yeah, and I mean it. And I'm saying it to you because I feel like you need it. I want you to know that you.

Speaker 2:

To everybody. To you. And you, and you.

Speaker 1:

And you To you. I'm everybody to you and you and you and you to you.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking to you, oh yeah, to the person watching this right there in front of us, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, you are an unrepeatable miracle. You started out as one cell and then became 70 billion cells. That's your body, that's you, and you have got a gift to offer into this world. I don't know what it is, that's for you to figure out, but just know that there is nobody else in this world like you. There's nobody else in this world with a smile like yours, with the heart that you have. Just know that you are an unrepeatable miracle and you're here to do something beautiful in this world. You are not forgotten. You are here for a reason. Okay, so that is me in a nutshell, and just know that we're going to be here next week. We're here week after week after week and we invite you to come join us. Share, like, subscribe, whatever it says in the little buttons below. Come back. We're here to help you take back your health and live your best life until your last breath, because you know what.

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